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It’s a crappy image, dragged out of the bowels of the Internet, but one can still read this as the Colorado&Southern #9.
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The engineering behind it is sound, the economics of actually doing it is pretty dubious at least with the current energy production mix.
The great return of 3 phase electrification :)



Osakans are now planning to train their Sakai Muscles following compu-translator changing Sakaisuji Line to Sakai Muscle Line.


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Please don't tell these people about pumped-storage power plants…


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From yet another murky corner of Teh Intertubez comes this:

TRAINS 1506x996 Colour JPEG - English Electric exported a number of their standard designs to various British colonies. Here a pair of National Railways of Zimbabwe DE3 class 1Co-Co1's bask in the dawn sunshine at Bulawayo in August 1984, having arrived with the daily train from Triangle.


New Zealand got them.Te drivers hated them because they had been ordered with a smaller than normal power unit because cheap. Gutless wonders.

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I still can’t believe this myself but I was at the Nascar race in Martinsville yesterday and I actually saw a guy in a hobo Stobe shirt, with the stylized “FNBS”
I thought maybe I was having a stroke when I saw it the first time and maybe I just read it wrong but I passed the guy again later and got the look I needed to confirm it. The fact that there was merch of him sold and that even this long after his death people are still wearing it surprises and amuses me.
Which begs the question: 1chan merch when?

Semi related picture, active NS line runs right past the speedway


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I will get right on it.


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I'd happily pay for a "Notwork Fail" shirt. Obviously in aid of maintaining this place, not whatever hare-brained scheme Ham wants to cook up, obviously.

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Hello I am in college and this chan is unblocked!


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Welcome! You do like trains…right?


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Fuck yeah. Trams are also cool


Unpopular opinion time: cable trams are ridiculous


>>7102 – And yet the SanFrans don’t want to give theirs up for buses.


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Trains are awesome, except on Sundays. Sunday trains are shit.

Pic related, it's a Sunday train.

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You are now aware to go along with the Hello Kitty Shinkansen JR West also made Hello Kitty Ltd. Exp. Harukas (Kansai Airport <-> Kyoto)

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I had an op session yesterday on my N scale railway. A few things popped up and I wasn't able to take as many photos as I wanted, but here we go…

First, 7:30am: Train 11 is making its station stop at Castlegar while an empty ore train waits to follow it out.
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hmm maybe just make everything super-small like 1:1000 and the vehicles super big


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what can i say.. it works

approx. 1:1000 scale for everything and x4 oversized trains and roads
looks nice AND unrealistic


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Sweet layout.
Mine is currently under construction (see photo).


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Mine is distinctly electronic. Much cheaper and more space efficient.


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Also lets you model much more area. Straight line distance between Newport and Milford is a couple of miles short of 90.

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What rail is this?
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Well it seems you know a lot more about it than us. It certainly could be used in diamond crossings. It does have a narrower base than I thought, however.


I have no idea what I'm talking about actually, I've come to you guys for knowledge


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such profile exists but its likely cast iron as well


The Breitspurbahn called for almost 200 pound rail of a conventional profile. So no.

My best guess would be some sort of crane rail.


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crane rails usually have a pretty similar profile to train rails, just shorter & wider

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Do you guys live in a basic city, where students from high school and college can use the tram for free?
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I live in Melbourne (Australia) and students receive either a discounted price or the can buy a pass for one years (price ~500 aud) which allows them completely free travel.


Typically one gets 50% off here if they are underage, pensioner, disabled, a student or a conscript.

Sadly, no tram yet. Earliest at 2026, when I'm nearing 40 already. The big decision will be april 15th but if it gets tabled, then sometime in may. Well, nominally it's still about the detailed plan and the final no backing out, the shovel hits the ground now -decision is like 2-3 years in the future, by a different municipal government, but if the project continues this fall, it's like 80% suse.


My region doesn't do free public transit passes for ALL students, but everyone who attends schools within the service area (which is MASSIVE) gets a 50% discount. The only exception to this that I know of is that students of select programs in one county get free passes.


Auckland here, primary/secondary students get ~50% off, university students about a third off, linked to the Hop card.


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In Moscow all students can get personal pass which would give limitless access to either metro or all urban transit for about 6$ a month (I think more for all modes of transportation variant). For retired, disabled and veterans ALL urban and suburban transit is free (because they know little they will use it, LOL).

For reference, single ride here is 39 roubles upon using a Troyka card or about $0.6. Each suburban zone is about $0.4.

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If you lot can listen to this and still feel down in the dumps, your problem is permanently unsolvable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkFUAUmo2Xs – «Hilly-Billy-Ding-Dong-Choo-Choo» with Conny Froboess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3iLmvW1FXk (better sound quality)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tyEv0GG4A – «Schwarzwaldfahrt» with the Fischer Choir.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA15Es6Bw2w – “Locomotion”
Not the one with Grand Funk Railroad, but the one with Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark.


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Let me play you the song of my people (literally, I was born here)





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Just days ago Novocherkassk electric locomotive works, a division of Russian company Transmashholding, produced a prototype of 3ES5S (3ЭС5С) 12-axle 25 kV AC freight electric locomotive, a variant of 2ES5S series, noticeable as the first electric loco series with an all-Russian asynchronous traction drive.

Now, to why I write this. This is a single most powerful locomotive in history. Extrapolating the specs for 2ES5S, the 3ES5S has a maximum effective power output of MIND. SHATTERING. 16200 kilowatts.
That's 1.3 MW an axle, at wheels! (and by the way heres >>6911 my two cents on the rationale behind the per axle power output, so let's not dive into that "pfffh, whatever, you can stuff more kilowatts into a single motor!" again)

This loco consists of 3 4-axle sections (units, modules - whatever) which, as usual for such locos, de jure counts as a single locomotive. Also it has predictable 300 tons of weight in effort to back up all those kilowatts.
And this thing beats the previous formal record of a 16-axle 4ES5K (which BTW you guys were criticising for it's lack of per axle power output - now you're satisfied?) by more than 3000 kW.

Its intended use is likely to haul 7000+ metric ton trains on the quite harsh track profile of Far East of Russia. With 1.3 MW an axle it is clearly oriented for also improving train dynamics which should help in overcoming difficult grades.

So yeah. It's not that I brag about this thing or anything… awww, c'mon, just look at this beast! If only it wasn't kinda too ugly and unpretentiously looking for such an impressive thing. Anyway, thought you'd be interested to know.
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Chonky beast. How fast are the typical speed limits in the far east? 16.2MW in 300 tonnes assuming ~0.25 adhesion would need to be 80+km/h just to avoid slipping at max power :)


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But did you? Did you take a look at the situation, from the side? A person who actually shares some foreign (and VERY, if not impossibly hard to find for En speaker, try my words) train details on the board dedicated to discussing trains, which is largely (save for couple of occasional users) ignored, until someone very occasionally sees some thing he didn't immediately understand and calls it bullshit, without even trying to dive deeper into that very chunk of info. Because apparently that's what one normally does on a dedicated board for railway enthusiasts!
And here you go, talking about dismissing my arguments, if not for seeming butthurt (perhaps I did misunderstand the wording, that barely changes anything now), then obviously for being overly enthusiastic - on the enthusiast site… So apparently now we have "enthusiast" board turned into regular casual nonsense. Seriously, I've seen popular YouTube comment threads with more dedicated and rich discussions.

If it sounds somewhat entitled, then because it is. I think that after all this piles of informative text largely unnoticed, or "dismissed", and lost to history I have just a little bit of moral right to rant somewhat rudely about the state of the board I now contributed so much into. I hate those "it used to be better" types, but this time yes, it used to be better.

You know, I was going to say sorry if turns out I DID misunderstand the wording or the tonality of your remark, hence unnecessary escalating the thing, but now… screw that. Maybe I did misunderstand but now I see that the overall attitude is more or less still the same as I assumed: "Hah, look at this neeeeerd, being so worked up about trains on the train board, haha".


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<…> (second part of) >>7067
And EVEN if by some chance it was a remark of gleeful surprise (with comparing the train discussion to furries?) then it only confirms my words, the real discussion is so gone on this board now you do a surprised remark upon seeing one.

And seriously, if it really IS that you were actually pleased to see a proper discussion, than consider stretching the text limit a bit. I think it doesn't even reach mere 2000 symbols, even Instagram has more.

You know, there's no hard feelings really. I needed to speak out anyway and this looked like a perfect moment. I'm proud that for once I managed to spark an actual related discussion and stir up this swamp just a little and none of those seemingly arrogant comments gonna change that.

Anyway, back on track.

>16.2MW in 300 tonnes assuming ~0.25 adhesion would need to be 80+km/h

The adhesion coefficient for an electric locomotive is about 0.39 (on dry track, without using the sand I think), so there will be at least 100 tonne-forces of traction to invest this power into. There aren't exact numbers yet but I would assume that short-term speed would be somewhere in the neighbourhood of 65-70 km/h, well within even the modest speed limit. By my observations I think freights on Far East can frequently do about 80 km/h.

P. S. Note that pic related is not 3ES5S, but 3ES5K, the less powerful DC-motor (with impulse feed) predecessor of this beast, the main workhorse of electric freight transit in the Asian part of Russia.


My dude, you are correct that this is a board specifically for railway enthusiasts. It's all we do. You should see how many people are on the ban list with the reason "Trains or GTFO".

(On that note, if you see a ban notification about posting porn, ignore it. Your IP address cycles pretty frequently and someone posted porn today using an IP address that you previously used once. I gave it a two week ban so hopefully you won't cycle back to that IP before it expires.)

Anyway, I was just making an offhanded remark about how, from my perspective, this wasn't a true single locomotive. You're the one that became argumentative right off the bat, taking it so personally that one might think you designed the locomotive yourself and I just spat on it.

Detailed discussions are always welcome here. Not everyone chooses to participate in them, but they are welcome nonetheless. Creating a hostile environment isn't going to help your argument. While super detailed discussions aren't as popular, it doesn't mean they're unwelcome. You just have to realize that it's not the norm for this board.


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I think that's the main point of our disagreement, you somehow approximate "argumentative" (especially in case of the original discussion, where it rather means "rich with reasoning") and "hostile". My problem was that you think/thought that lots of text and reasoning, which BTW is more an explanation rather than argument, look hostile - and that's on a (nominally) tech-savvy board. Although as stated before it might be my problem with the board, really.

Yes, at first I was perturbed with your remark, but not because you "spat" on something but because this sounded quite ignorant by the "official" standards set on this board, and protected largely by you yourself, as in, being all-train friendly and with "However simplified or detailed you want to discuss trains, someone will be there to match it" (this was your words BTW).
BUT my unhappiness with it was confined to the first paragraph of my response, and then I was mostly only explaining as well as I could. And I'm glad other people were drawn to discuss that topic.
Something similar happened with K-POW recently when he said that I "don't understand trains" or something and while, maybe, at first a bit of overreaction was there (that comment seemed a bit bitter, but he later claimed it was not), but despite that I tried my best to explain the technical point.

And that's why I complained about the board which is incredibly protective of its "trainness" seemingly acting very casually, because that's a common trait of casual discussion: lots of text and reasoning = LOL U BUTTHURT M8.

Let's admit, we're all being huge nerds here, it's our dirty secret, so since there are perfect conditions to be nerds around here, it seems kinda strange to point fingers at those who act bit nerdier than others.

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