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45216 No.125471   [Reply]

Subsequently WCR (West Coast Railway Co.) was barred from all UK railway lines primo April. As well that the Hogwarts Express was sitting on display.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-32167724 (Pic from here)

>> No.125473  

I wanna know how they isolated AWS mid-brake application. Insanity.

>> No.125474  

Don't know how air brakes work in the UK, but in the US some airbrakes(usually those on passenger trains) have the suppression before full service. So you can recover from a penalty brake application without stopping.

On freight trains, though, full service is before suppression so you make a full service application before you can enter suppression and recover from the penalty application of brakes. Basically meaning you come to a complete stop.

>> No.125475  

>>125473 -- Most likely, the "Isolate" switch got thrown. If I read the docs below correctly, that would cancel any pending or current action.

http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Traffic%20Operation%20and%20Management/RSSB%20Good%20Practice%20Guides/RS522%20Iss%202.pdf -- AWS/TPWS Handbook
http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Control%20Command%20and%20Signalling/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GERT8075%20Iss%201.pdf -- AWS/TPWS Interface Requirements

>> No.125481  

It would appear that, to use the vernacular, they dun goofed.

Apparently last year they caused a fire and were handed a route suspension. It turned out that the crew weren't aware there was a fire risk, because nobody had briefed them, which was because nobody at WCRC knew for certain whether there was an issue or not. WCRC's response was to claim that to suspend them from the route was arbitrary and to stonewall the enquiry.

So apparently they've been a fucking liability for a few years.

>> No.125482  

I believe they're only supposed to isolate in the case of a failure, so if they did isolate because FUCK YEAH STEAM the crew are in for a world of hurt.

There was a case last year where Chiltern's ghost train jumped two signals and entered an occupied single line because of the driver stopping his train in the wrong place in Paddington (thereby causing TPWS to be isolated) and then misinterpreting the signals on approach (thinking that the previous signal would clear to green as he approached).

>> No.125486  

>>125482 -- Failure or deadlock. AWS has at least one deadlock state: If the train stops with the AWS sensor right over a magnet, the AWS will not let it start again.

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124563 No.125483   [Reply]

Oops ...back in 2005, 104 wagons coal made a mountain from a mole heap

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>> No.125485  

Did that happen in South Africa?

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61763 No.125406   [Reply]

So, what do we think? Single or double?

>> No.125418  
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Wall of text incoming.

It depends entirely on use case. In this case, the true intent of the North West Rail Link is union busting. By making the tunnels too small to fit double decker trains even though it has been spoken in many circles that the company making the TBMs was offering a larger size for the same price, it means it'll never be able to accommodate without reboring. This lines up perfectly with that witch's dealings with the cunts who run the disaster that is Metro Melbourne as the service has already announced to be operated by a third party - i.e. them on a platinum platter. It's also why they want to segregate the lines so they can eventually sell them off to their mates by the pieces.

In practice, a single decker in the Sydney environment would not have more capacity. The Sydney crowd does not fit more closely together. The trains themselves were shown to have both transverse and longitudinal seating thus meaning there isn't much more standing space afforded anyway. The frequency would be 4 minutes. The current setup already has trains with 3 minute frequencies using traffic light signalling. Something like ATC could easily bring it down to 1.5. The current trains carry approximately 896 or more people all SEATED with at least another 100 spots for people to stand in Sydney densities per carriage.
The government claimed the new line would have a capacity of 17000 people an hour. That's less than the seat capacity of the current system alone. Additionally, the jamming means that 3 doors won't really make a tangible difference anyway due to the behaviour of Sydney commuters.

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>> No.125439  

Single decker would be great if it was being used where it's advantages matter, such as dense intercity operations, not for outer suburban operations where the existing double decker designs would have worked well.

>> No.125440  

Everyone knows they're jsut doing it to keep the unions out of the debate.

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Who says politicians are no fun?

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Given the proportions on the picture, I think the shuttle is for the inchlings of Touhou.
Maybe Setabanki can fit her head in there, but thats about it.

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It could also be for the Puchis from Idolm@ster.

>> No.125476  

Either way won't they just be able to replace the rolling stock if single deckers do end up being insufficient?

>> No.125478  

That's the whole crux of the matter and why I'm kicking up such a shit. The former minister deliberately ensured the TBMs were undersized to guarantee a lack of interoperability.

It would be like putting a deep underground or Ginza sized line in today's world. The only bullshit I'm surprised they didn't pull is using 3rd rail instead of overhead.

>> No.125480  

The hell? So are they using the British loading gauge or something?

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17634 No.125477   [Reply]

http://jernbanearkivalier.dk/dsb_instrukser/uniformer-lokf-1991.pdf -- Uniform clothing available to DSB (Danish State Railways) staff in 1991. Pages A14-A16 show maternity clothing.

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55849 No.125457   [Reply]

Found in http://www.gutenberg.org/files/47642/47642-h/47642-h.htm (Strand Magazine, Feb. 1904):

"I send you a photo. taken by Mrs. Hind, of Stoke-on-Trent. The photo. shows a railway-station on the Eskdale and Ravenglass line, which consists of a flat-bottomed boat turned up on its side, with a seat inside for passengers. I think it likely this is the most primitive and unique station in the United Kingdom. I may add that the guard is also station-master, ticket-collector, and porter at the different stations along the line, of which there are six or seven."\Mr. M. Hind, Felsham Rectory, Bury St. Edmunds.

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106579 No.125458   [Reply]

The answer may or may not surprise you.


>> No.125460  
>Not recognizing the author

For shame, Kartma.

There are some half truths in there, but yeah, it's mostly garbage.

>> No.125462  
>Cato Institute

stop reading there.

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Curses! I've been hornswoggled!

>> No.125467  

You were bamboozled by a professional NIMBY.

Don't sweat it, it happens to the best of us.

>> No.125468  

>>125466 -- No, you weren't. It is this kind of hypocritical lamer that's keeping you out of the flight level zero jets and in the smog clouds.

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36447 No.125345   [Reply]


Looks like 611 will be steaming through my backyard! HOW CONVENIENT!

>> No.125360  
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Any idea the route it's taking?

>> No.125365  

Will it be nekkid?

>> No.125463  


the Manassas-Front Royal portion is on the B Line, which passes by lovely Chapman's Mill.

I've yet to decide whether I want a shot of 611 trackside, or if I want to hike to the top of Bull Run Mountain and get a shot of it steaming through Thoroughfare Gap. Probably trackside, because that'll work no matter the weather.

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>>125463 Nay! You should go up high. Be a novelty picture not many other folks have. Besides a nice track side location like that will be swamped with every yokel with their camera.

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>steam on the Southern Tier
>the routing probably takes it over the falls at Letchworth


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119996 No.125366   [Reply]


ION: http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/news/cn-locomotive-engineers-ratify-new-labor-agreement.html

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It hit 603km/h just a few hours ago. Most english language outlets don't seem to care up until a few minutes ago although everyone else was seemingly wetting their pants.

Let the new age begin.

>> No.125419  

600 km/h is kill

>> No.125422  

Well CNN covered it which is a first. At first I thought it crash landed in the pacific.

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Went to see this last summer. I wonder if they'll keep the retractable walkways in the final design?

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They also had a nice model of the future station in the exhibition center.

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I think it depends on what finally comes to fruition. If they do have stations where the trains run express, having a way to separate the track and platform with a fairly sizeable gap is kind of necessary to keep stray magnetic fields at bay (unless you want to go the route of covering views of the track up with steel plates). Otherwise, the tentative diagrams do appear to indicate platform doors for obvious reasons, the matter is how large the gap will be but it seems they'll probably have to do some sort of walkway one way or another.
The stations in general are reported to be quite basic, just some toilets, gates and vending machines to minimise costs. The ekiben stands if any will be amusing.

One thing that has yet to be finalised is auxiliary power. And I think it'll be a headache for them unless they already have a delivery method planned. Note the black marks - the current method of running the lighting, refrigeration and aircon while the train is at low speed is by using a gas turbine. I'm guessing they'll have to do something like install some induction coils and pickups with the express purpose of running extra, then having battery or hydrogen fuel cell onboard as backup.

>> No.125456  

Wouldn't the cheapest method of powering trains at low speeds be to install a third rail in and around stations?

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That involves a 3rd rail. You also need to cover for when things like emergency stops occur anywhere.
A 3rd rail is also dangerous in the event of train evacuation.

I'd personally just go for non propulsion coils between the existing ones or underneath. That or being able to switch the propulsion coils for transmitting power in between the on train coils.

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957746 No.125433   [Reply]

Look what I picked up today!

Methinks it's from a PRR lock judging by the loo on it but I'm not 100% sure

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The logo on the top resembles a PRR keystone but it says "FRAIM" in it. Perhaps the key/lock manufacturer?

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Backside is nothing special but has "34" stamped into it

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>> No.125443  

Active use or aesthetic purposes?
So what you're saying is that it's not railroad

>> No.125444  
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As far as purpose goes, I'm not sure. But the keystone and the "FRAIM" engraving represent the old Fraim Lock Company of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which also did business as Keystone Lock. The things that tie Fraim Lock and the Pennsylvania Railroad together are their basis in the State of Pennsylvania, and the state icon of the keystone.

Pic related; Heinz is a Pennsylvania-based food concern that also uses the keystone as an icon.

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What about the Long Island Railroad? They use the keystone logo, but Long Island is in New York, right?

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You tell me.

>> No.125459  


It was run by the Pennsylvania Railroad.

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108695 No.125330   [Reply]

Can it be built?

And even if JRC does build it will it be success in the car-centric cities of Texas?

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>> No.125394  

Their main problem at the time was they felt the rail line would cut into their city hopping flights.

This day in age though, I don't know anyone who decides lets fly to Dallas!(within Texas) As far as I know the "commuter flights" between the cities are almost non-existent with the ones that do actually take place only serving as connectors. My girlfriend was looking to take a flight from Cleveland to Houston and found that the cheapest one was ~$600 while a flight to Dallas is ~$100. She then tried to find a flight from Dallas to Houston but they were all ~$150. It's ridiculous.

By the way I'll be visiting your fare city in the beginning of June, and hope to take a ride on the trolley.

>> No.125395  

Of course, the worst part is that if you were to try and make those into an official connection, rather than being charged $100 + $150, you'd be charged some other completely arbitrary figure for it. The alternative is booking them separately and having to allow for delays and cancellations yourself.

>> No.125396  

Every day I hope and pray that the CDC or someone diagnoses Nimbyism as some kind of disorder

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>> No.125399  

Honestly for the money I've just decided to drive to Dallas and pick her up, and that way we can spend the night in Dallas and do Six Flags since we lack one in Houston now. Hopefully Low Cost Carriers make a good comeback.

Crack Heads, and Debutantes.

>> No.125400  

Better put some LOSER on that

>> No.125402  

Stay away from the streetcars on June 6. That's the grand opening celebration of the new route. It's going to be a nightmare until 23:00 or so.

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Shit I had no idea.. thank you!


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Five myths of the TCR, addressed:


>> No.125442  

I saw that earlier today.

The only thing I don't like is the pass through Berm thing. As someone who grew up on a ranch I can tell ya that animals are rough on rats.. you don't want that concrete structure to start crumbling, so go with the cheaper/better option just build up the grade to berm height and place one bridge per property. It'll also probably look better.

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