>>53814
No, JR fares are incredibly expensive when you consider that a standard JR 7-day pass saves money (not much, but it still costs less) if you take N'EX to and from Narita Kuko to Tokyo, and then the Shinkansen to Kyoto from Tokyo. Anything local seems okay (and I think that's how commuters do it) but I really don't understand how commuters can afford passes. At least Green Car rates on the Shonan-Shinjuku aren't bad if you're going from say, Zushi to Utsunomiya.
I gotta say though, passes do save you a bundle in the long run. The pass from Hachioji to Yurakucho is only 21600 a month, which equates to about 28 rides, and that's probably a pretty normal distance for commuters.
Also, what Tokkyu is that? (yes, I should be ashamed for not knowing)
>>53822
Dude the Shindai trains aren't even worth it anyways. Cassiopeia is for couples, Twilight and Hokutosei are for rich people or people who fit into TINY rooms and have minimal luggage--and it's still a squeeze in those single-twin rooms. I've never travel compartment, but I figure it's not much better.
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