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119203 No.126656   [Reply]

Awww...

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/freight/last-post-for-french-high-speed-freight-as-postal-tgvs-bow-out.html?device=auto

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>> No.126675  

>>126674 -- Yes to both.

>> No.126686  

>>126663
Local content rules only apply to federally funded projects. I think the Texas project is private so it doesn't matter. It's funded by Japs though, so no chance in hell of TGV equipment.

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>>126686

Not the guy you're responding to, but I just want to butt in and say that the Texas HSR is moving at a snail's pace because rail transport, as is in Texas, is kind of a mess. Amtrak connects the tri cities but each city has their own commuter rail. If I remember right, there's no Amtrak California/Amtrak Cascades/NJTransit equivalent so that getting a train through the three cities is a pain.

Ideally, if one were to build HSR in Texas they would focus not on making HSR but on getting a loop electrified and running with a reasonably good on time record. Regional trains would exist regardless of HSR and you need a base to grow the HSR out of.

That's exactly how we got the Acela in the northeast, and how we're getting HSR out in California. HSR is the top of a larger pyramid of slower rail transport, commuter rail and light rail beneath it.

>> No.126697  

>>126663
The user who posted >>126686 is correct. However the Japanese aren't funding it. The company that is funding it is working with the Japanese but they're not putting any money into it. Since the Texas HSR is being built completely by private funds my understanding is that they're able to purchase anything they want. I do agree that they'll likely end up buying American just for politics sake.. although maybe they could do something like buy the TGVs disassemble them in France, then have them reassembled here in the U.S. with new components since obviously they'll need cars with room for passengers. IT would help to save on cash. Unlikely though based on their Japanese partnership.

As for whether or not it will be built, that's still up in the air, however it's actually looking pretty good at this point. There was some issue with the route recommendations that were to be made by the state however a route good for everyone was found (along a utility corridor).

As for current commuter rail.. nothing exists. The only passenger rail connections are via Amtrak. You can go from El Paso to San Antonio to Houston via the Sunset Limited. You can also go from Dallas to San Antonio via The Texas Eagle.

>>126689
At this point there is no commuter rail in Texas except for one line that operates in Austin. As mentioned above I wouldn't consider the towns in Texas as being really connected via Amtrak. They go through Texas towns but you can't go from Dallas to Houston or from Austin to El Paso, and the service is so infrequent and expensive that no one uses it in state.

>> No.126698  

dubs

>> No.126699  

fasd

>> No.126700  

>>126697
I thought the Texas project included Japanese investors.

And there are two commuter lines in the Dallas area, the TRE to Fort Worth, and the Atrain to Denton County.

>> No.126701  

>>126700
Ah you're right about the commuter rail lines. I forgot that there's anything other than DART and the M-Line up there. Still us down here in Houston only have a limited Light Rail system but we're getting better as time goes along... San Antonio has nothing.

As for the Japanese Investors that was just a rumor spread by the folks against the rail line. As far as I know the names of the investors haven't been released but in one of their statements they confirmed that no Japanese investors were part of the group. The only connection being the previously mentioned partnership with JRC.

>> No.126702  

>>126701
There's also supposed to be a "Cotton Belt Line" or some such being built between Ft. Worth and DFW.

>> No.126703  

>>126702
http://www.texrail.com/

Dang, they just secured funding and they're entering the engineering phase.



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663643 No.126557   [Reply]

Sup 1chan, I've been thinking a lot lately about the direction I want my life to go in and have been contemplating going into the rail industry. There's a trade program close by to where I live that teaches people how to be brake-men, car-men, and conductors as part of a six-month course, and if I do it their in-field placement rate is somewhere between 70-80% of graduates before course completion (the railways hire directly from the school when they offer graduating candidates). But before I sign anything, I want to hear more about the field from people directly involved and I know /rail/ has quite a few railway workers. So I guess my questions are:

>What prompted you to go into rail work? What is your position, and how has it impacted your life positively or negatively?
>Is a trade school specifically suited for railroading worth the cost? Is it necessary, or is experience in a similar field enough to get in without certification?
>What might I expect from railway life in terms of job quality and difficulty? Rate of pay, hours, benefits, et cetera? Job placement?
>Is railway life worth it in your case? Why or why not?

I know this might be seen as asking for a lot, but if anyone can I'd really appreciate some feedback here. Thanks in advance!

>Pic related, background from my home state.
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All right. Reading through this thread, the general consensus seems to be:

A) Vocational school is rarely worth it, yet it varies by region and railway depending on the company one wishes to join.

B) The pay and benefits are fair for the work involved, but the downside is the awful scheduling and poor management.

C) Railway work is a good way to kill the hopes and dreams of many foamers.

Someone tell me if I'm missing something here or if I'm reading these responses incorrectly. I guess like one anon posted about, I'm tired of just foaming for so many years and want to try my hand and the real thing, yet I also want to be realistic in my options and know that if I do go into this field, it will be far from a cakewalk. My current advantages are that I'm single with no real thought of starting a family anytime soon, don't have any school debt, and don't mind long overtime as I've dealt with it in other jobs before. I'm not really going anywhere with my life and chances are this could be a step up, but again I want to cover my bases.

Anyone have further thoughts? Maybe some input as to help clarify things?

>> No.126650  

>>126645
Go for it. If you don't like it, you can always quit. It's not like you have to ride it out for another 12 years for the kids like a bad marriage.

>> No.126653  

>>126645

If you make close to 100K a year if you save, invest, and budget properly after ten years you can retire and never have to work a day again in your life. Or you can work a couple years and save about 100k and go on a sweet ass vacation for a few years on that. At least I could.

>> No.126654  

>>126642

Not Paddington m8 but I am aware that they have evening restrictions there beyond the usual Super Off Peak ones. Explain your beef sir, I take it's with FGW.

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attached pic restricted evening services from PAD and RDG

>> No.126657  

>>126655
There is no such thing as a peak train, only a peak ticket. FGW's tickets for their local services are issued under restriction J9, and longer distance services under (I think) YV, which is the same except allowing travel on the 1745 to Swansea for some reason. Passengers are regularly refused travel by FGW staff traveling on off-peak tickets under codes such as B3 and C4, which very clearly state a morning peak only.

Anyway, that's a rant for another day and another thread.

>> No.126661  

>>126657

The lads at Paddington are just covering their own arses, nobody got in to trouble for refusing to let someone on to a train they were technically entitled to, giving someone the benefit of the doubt could cost you your job and your livelihood. Their managers neither have a better grasp of the rules, because of shit training and 'pay twice and argue about it afterwards because muh revenue' attitude. I've personally been in situations where I've had explicit written orders from management regarding ticket acceptance even though I knew it was in contradiction to the Conditions of Carriage, what the fuck am I supposed to do? The system stinks and we all know it, the only people who have it within their grasp to organise and change it are the people you are blaming for it, the monkey is not your enemy, it's the organ-grinder.

>> No.126694  

>>126653

>$100K/yr
>retire in a decade

That's being a bit generous, honestly. You can get away with less depending on how frugal you want to be.

The poverty line, in the United States, for a single person household, is about $12K/yr.
Let's assume that's enough money for housing, utilities, food, transportation, and healthcare. (Although admittedly the last two are a bit of a stretch.)

If you're making $100K/yr, that means you could save ~$88K each year if you only spent money on the absolute necessities.
If you put your savings in the stock market, you could get a 2-3% anuual return on dividends, or possibly more for 'growth' stocks.
So to have a $12K/yr income from dividends, you only need ~$300K invested. You'd probably want more for luxuries, to account for inflation/cost of living increases, and a healthy margin for error, but it's still not that much considering.

>> No.126695  

>>126694

>Implying no taxes.

You have no idea how much I get raped being single with no dependents.

>> No.126696  

>>126642
>>126661
Write to the Railway Magazine et al, is my best advice. Letters published in there have significant clout. There are some other industry-focused publications that would probably help too.

I think we can agree that the ticket pricing structure today is intentionally a clusterfuck to rake in more penalty fares and double-tickets, because someone at the top of the ATOC food chain is wringing their hands for shekels.



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2455164 No.126676   [Reply]

So I've been getting more interested in British trains lately, and I've got a question for those of y'all who are already into 'em: What's the deal with the yellow paint on the front of every single locomotive? I mean, I figure it's for visibility/safety, but I'm baffled that A: it's been the same shade of yellow throughout history (wouldn't they have upgraded to a hi-viz yellow like they did with safety jackets?) and B: it doesn't appear to matter HOW MUCH yellow paint there is, as long as there's some. Dig the collage, some of them barely have a rectangle or smudge, while others deck out every bit of trim and some of the sides with it, or even style it in all fancy. What are the regulations for this yellow paint?

Also, I found this here Youtube channel with a fine selection of old British railway documentary clips, enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/user/RAILvintageTV

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If I remember correctly, a certain fraction of the front actually does have to be yellow. And it's known as Safety Yellow.

In the case of interiors, it is to aid the visually impaired. Although in practice, some extra paper bureaucracy lets things like old trains get away with it when they run possessions.

>> No.126682  

The rules are roughly this:

RVAR mandate that to aid the impaired passenger doors must be distinguishable, which can be a problem on modern sets with plug doors that sit flush with the sides. Yellow was the easy way to do it originally, though companies eventually rolled it into their brands, eg First companies tend to us Barbie Pink doors.

Group Standard RTsomethingorother mandates a minimum area for yellow ends, with an exception for steam locos. Heritage units need them if they're to run on the Big Railway. Many such units have the smallest panel they can get away with. The standard also dictates the shade to be used, in the old BS381C numbers IIRC.

Notwork Fail have an all over yellow livery for their vehicles, but it's a slightly different yellow, and as a result when you look really closely you can see the join between the two yellows.

>> No.126684  

Visibility Requirements for Trains -- http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Rolling%20Stock/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GMRT2483%20Iss%201.pdf

Accepted shades include RAL 1003/1004/1018/1021/1023 and BS4800 08E51.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors
http://www.e-paint.co.uk/chart_options.asp

Bonus: Audibility Requirements for Trains -- http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Rolling%20Stock/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GMRT2484%20Iss%202.pdf

>> No.126687  

"here shall be a minimum forward facing continuous area of yellow surface of 1 m² with a minimum dimension of 0.6 m when viewed, at a large distance, head on from in front of the vehicle."

All the trains you see there exceed by far the 1 square meter requirement.

I don't think that upgrading to reflective/hi-vis yellow would provide much benefit, being that all locomotives have headlights anyway.

>> No.126690  

>>126687

>exceed by far

That MkI (101?) is pushing it somewhat. The front portion is perhaps not far off the minimum 0.6 high and not much more than 2m wide. It's almost certainly less than 2sqm.

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>>126682
Note carefully the difference ebtween Warning Yellow and Network Yellow.

>> No.126693  

>>126676
TRENS



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119608 No.126295   [Reply]

What is the history of this board? Are any of it's original posters still around?

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>> No.126355  

>>126340
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Wars!
I need to read this.

>> No.126368  

Then watch this:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7EKkAy-PfN4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

>> No.126369  

>>126368

>That A-Team music

I die every time.

>> No.126373  

>>126368

>embedding
>on 1chan

ha ha ha, go back to 8chan

>> No.126375  

>>126373

Only a select few can embed.

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>>126375

>eislando
>> No.126399  

>>126368 -- Here is the link as a regular page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EKkAy-PfN4

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I first came here in 2006(?) and I have noticed as I drift away and come back to this site from time to time, that the level of collective knowledge here has expanded greatly. I simply can't keep up with a lot of the discussions anymore.

By the way I was watching MST3K a while ago and the line "trains are blameless holy creatures" came up. I thought that was something that originated from this site, or at least I remember reading it here a number of times. I haven't seen it here in a while. I grinned for the rest of the evening.

>> No.126680  

I've been mostly lurking for the past three or four years, only posting now and then. It's one of my favorite places on the interweb... I don't really visit other chans anymore. And I don't know that much about trains by 1chan standards, but I love them. I watch videos from train cabs more nights than not. The sound, the efficiency, the construction, the pleasure of being a passenger (unfortunately I hardly get to), the beautiful infrastructure. Even the people that ride trains seem disproportionally relaxed and content... kind of like 1chan.

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>>126673
I've been lurking but not as long as you have. It's amazing how much the board has grown over the past few years though. If you've got a question 99% of the time it can be answered here. You can ask questions even about foreign rail operations and have them answered.

Also I believe that quote came from the MST3k Episode "Last Clear Chance" which is worth watching.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naix-f6KSIg



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18331 No.126678   [Reply]
>A man has killed himself and one other person after setting himself on fire on board a Japanese Shinkansen bullet train

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33322794
http://dat.2chan.net/r/res/638466.htm

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That reminds me. On JR East Shinkansen sets (i.e. running Down in the opposite direction), there are 2 buttons. One is specifically for fire, the other for emergencies. Makes me wonder what the fire button actually does. Halocarbon extinguisher system perhaps?
I know some of the sets also note that pulling the EDR will trigger the emergency brake too.

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The Rocket News take on it: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/30/two-die-after-man-sets-himself-alight-on-bullet-train-in-kanagawa-prefecture/

Aside: JR Central is trialling some new inverters that they hope will save them some electricity down the line.

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>>126683
I'm guessing they're jumping on the SiC cart too, I think Hitachi. The savings are 2.5 fold, smaller unit, higher efficiency and likely the decision to eventually use more efficient PMSMs which further up the efficiency.

On most IGBT powered Shinkansen sets, the inverter/motor is pretty damn quiet. I wonder if you'd even be able to hear it. But at that, the sound of an SiC inverter is still curious to me. It feels quite gentle (obviously it'd also vary by manufacturer and configuration but nonetheless).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjJPgXu5b8s
You can definitely hear the signature ME IGBT notes but it's like someone put butter on it.

That's my autism for the day.

>> No.126688  

Yep, Hitachi silicon-carbides, on an N700 set.

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/high-speed/jr-central-tests-sic-power-modules-on-shinkansen-train.html?device=auto
http://www.railway-technology.com/news/newsjr-central-begins-tests-of-mitsubishis-sic-power-modules-on-shinkansen-train-4611531



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29495 No.126454   [Reply]

I'm currently living in a house for like another week. It's actually my friends parents house and it's rather funny because i'm pretty much a ghost here. I only ever come downstairs for food or coffee, so this mysterious train kid who barely speaks is housed with too ex-hippy liberal parents trying to understand why their son is friends with this creep.

Enough of that tho. 1chan, i'm going to give ya'll the chance to design/choose my next tattoo. I'd prefer a simpler design and definitely rail related. It'd be my first actual railroad related and not just train hopping culture tattoo. I only get hand poked tattoos which is why it needs to be simple. I'm not getting any dicks or swastikas tattooed on me so don't even bother with that. Here's the last tattoo i got, so this is kinda the skill level my artist is at, with no machine. Yes thats a horse wearing sunglasses. Btw being on a real computer is so much more comfortable than always using cellphones.

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>hoerscawk

1chan, iam dissappoint

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turbo. chicken.

>mo-pac thug-lyfe
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drop and show 'em this

>dat swingin door gape
>> No.126631  

>>126618

That would be a great tramp stamp for foamer girls.

>> No.126636  

>>126631

>foamer
>girl

Pick one

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>>126636

A guy can dream.

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BRITISH RAIL LOGO M8

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>>126636
They do exist

https://sendvid.com/xh8tfytp#

>> No.126652  

>>126646
Love it when women are into things besides netflix and clothes.
And for that matter when men like things besides vidya and cars.
Too sparse.

>> No.126672  

I don't have any suggestions but I did see a porn video a while ago where one of the performers (a trap) had what appeared to be a 48 car with a 40 foot container in it tattooed on their back. It wasn't like a profile view, but from an angle. That's not exactly solid evidence that they were a hobo but it's not exactly something the average foamer would get inked on them either.



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54530 No.126476   [Reply]

JR Kyushu has an unusual success: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/17/japanese-netizens-approve-of-japan-railways-cool-yosakoi-dance-troupe-%e3%80%90video%e3%80%91/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-33148281 -- Hiroden tram #653 is back in traffic after a restoration.

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Why don't they just make this regular JR uniform?

>> No.126669  

>>126668
Because it'd be less cool if absolutely everyone was wearing it.



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57801 No.126553   [Reply]

Goodnight, sweet princess.

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>> No.126560  

o7

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She saved the railroad, and the economy of the region the railroad served. Even as she takes that one last catnap, may her legacy endure.

>>126559

IIRC, she had an apprentice in Tama II.

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One of the great railroaders of our times.
.
Rest in Peace.

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RIP you train loving cat!

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I hope they put up a statue at her station, and it becomes the place for people to meet up like Hachiko in Shibuya.

Someone on Twitter even conjectured that Studio Ghibli would make an anime out of Tama. But that's just conjecture.

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It's so hard
To say goodbye
To yesterday

>> No.126579  

sheds tear
goodnight.

>> No.126581  

Isen't she like 7chans mascot?

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yeah, rip

>> No.126667  
>tfw you put off visiting Tama on your last trip to Japan becasue you thought she would always be there

;_;



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104049 No.126586   [Reply]

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/26/studio-ghibli-animators-west-japan-railway-ad-has-us-ready-for-summer-%e3%80%90video%e3%80%91/

Woah...

>> No.126666  
>Studio Ghibli

That old hack

>Not hiring Makoto Shinkai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsqJrMOWeMI



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63879 No.126589   [Reply]

In my Web browsing, as everyone here knows, I also lurk moar at 8 Chan's /k/ every so often.
One of their guaranteed to be responded to threads is the vaunted "inna woods".
.
So, without further adeu, fire up your greentext response to SHTF.

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>> No.126626  

whats with all the cats in here.

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>>126626
Gotta' respect that „‚ussy.

Here's my other "outside" cat. She's a total fatty.

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Smashing tale, ol' chap!

>> No.126641  

Big up the lads at 8chan, hotwheels and the GG soldiers, you are fighting the good fight.

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>>126627

Ooh is this a cat thread now?

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>>126643
Cats, guns, and TRAINS.

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>>126641
HOT WHEELS! LEADING THE WAY!

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>>126643
It can be whatever you want it to be, babe.

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CATS OF 1CHAN THREAD!!!

>> No.126664  

8ch's /k/ is shit. It's the worst of both worlds, the shitposting from 4chan /k/ but also the elitism from operatorchan



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