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12014 No.122520   [Reply]

There's been a lot of talk about the US and Cuba normalizing relations. Everyone knows that a lot of their tech is frozen in time from the 1950s when the Commies took over, including their railroads. Lots of steam trains all over still in use. Anybody got any details on this?

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476804 No.122514   [Reply]

Hello friends, we've been getting around. Staying safe....ish. Someone drunkenly fell into a campfire a few nights ago, just burned his coat and got a few scratches. So I have a few photos for y'all. Now excuse the quality, I take the photos with my iPhone 4 and post then directly to my Instagram (so some have filter on) then delete them off my phone. It's not wise to keep that stuff on my phone in case of arrest and search. So I umm what's the term, I...screenshot! Yea I screenshot them off there and cropped them to share with you. Then I'll delete then again haha. We'll here you go. I only took a few to keep the phone battery alive. I'll take more next time.

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I'm not traveling with any of these kids, just shared a few drinks with em

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I'm not much of a nature fella but sometimes it's just amazing.

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Last one. Sorry I didn't snap more.

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41759 No.122501   [Reply]

http://www.lokmann.no/lt/2008/1108svard.htm (article in Norwegian)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lokmann.no%2Flt%2F2008%2F1108svard.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=no&tl=en (Giggle translation into English)

Please no Hell jokes... in Norway, Hell is a town near Trondheim.

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>Hell is a town near Trondheim.

Does it, by any chance, spend most of the year frozen over?

>> No.122507  


It's Norway. Of course it does.

But that still doesn't mean Mary Jane Hotpants is going to go out with you after all.

>> No.122509  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway -- There is a link to the weather info in that article.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hell_stasjon -- Pictures of and from Hell railway station.

>> No.122513  


Hell has a train station? I thought it just had a ferry dock.

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59327 No.122511   [Reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUybQlfc4Uw -- An Austrian Crocodile with a special train.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO7dVG2QiY -- The last three ÖBB 1045 units on their sayonara run. According to de.wikipedia, those little sixty-tonners could walk away with a kilometre-long rake of freight cars.

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1533919 No.121878   [Reply]

I wonder how many kw we could pack and how fast we could roll modernizations of old electric jackshaft locomotive designs like this one.
6 traction motors

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You know they have modern locomotives now as well, which are more efficient?

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The most powerful traction motors available these days afaik are 1600kW - as present in monsters like the HXD3B.

If the overhead could take it, an IORE stuffeed with them would push 19.2MW out, never mind what it would actually drink from the wires.

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> Monomoteur (English: mono-motor or single motor) - a single (2.8MW) electric motor is mounted in the bogie and drives both axles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_BB_26000 AC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_BB_22200 DC

b-but it's more romantic muh choo choo

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170155 No.122462   [Reply]

I wonder if a solid state 3 phase inverter could have fit in the nose of an F40PH solving the problem with the engine needing to run at full speed.

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>passenger unit
>implied need for porch
>especially canada

what u on brah

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If EMD had included an independent HEP generator from the beginning, then they could have just extended the car body to accommodate that AND a porch. As it is, I think it's a fair sacrifice to make a pretty good locomotive take the step up to excellent.

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Now my first Starlight trip back in 1992 makes sense. A locomotive crapped out, and the entire train lost power.

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P42s are the same way I think no sepreat HEP

>> No.122493  

At least Talgo sets have their own HEP.

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if a push-pull train reverses, does it need tail-end power?

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Anybody else able to consistently detect when Ham posts anonymously? The spelling gives it away, evertim.

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Sadly, yes.

Getting back on to topic, P42's do indeed do HEP by locking the prime mover to 900 rpm to spin up 480 volts of three phase alternating current. F59PHI's accomplish HEP via a genset that is skid mounted and able to be changed out. The two new Talgo sets have the same generators. The six* older Talgo power cars use Mercedes diesels that Talgo crapped a brick about how many hours are actually on them, as Amtrak power is supposed to be the main source for electricity. The Talgo gensets are mainly intended as backup only.

HEP will create quite a light show and almost certainly kill you if you try hard enough.

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*There are six Talgo power cars for the five Series VI Talgo sets, one is a spare in case they need it. There is also an extra Bistro an an extra Baggage car, these comprise a mini Talgo that can be seen parked just south of Holgate street by the Jack in the Box.

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136689 No.121570   [Reply]

It seems JR Hokkaido has a new competitor. The rails are effectively rotting away.


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>> No.121822  


>that horrific flexing

What the hell is this? Penn Central?

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That's why wheels are sprung. Vertical isn't so bad--it's horizontal (lateral) bouncing that spews cars about the countryside.

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I remember bring in NYC and seeing just as bad, if not worse on the MTA New Haven line

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They're at least pouring in billions to bring up to par.

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yeah the FRA gave them a few kind words and a few kind speed restrictions over that

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Adding more pain to Melbourne drama. JR Hokkaido's flaming trains have a new match


>> No.122308  

So is what happens when you trust Chinks with your railroads?!

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To stop the inverters from exploding too hard, they've put straps on them. Note the ridiculously tiny heatsink.

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IIRC, the Norwegian State Railways had some trouble with exploding electric gear some years back, in their El.16 locos, I think.

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>>122500 -- No, it was the El.14. Here's one of them after a regulator exploded and blew every pane out of the engine room.

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274865 No.122494   [Reply]

This one was run in Denmark in 2008 by Struer Railway Club.


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More from Denmark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GfVFnpJVA -- K582 in Elsinore with the Yule Train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38MV99wOcds -- The K class is from the 1900s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZqlZOZ-yfw -- The Maribo-Bandholm Heritage Railway had their Lj 19 out, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9sPghhxuU -- Ain't gunna be much yule cheer without yule beer.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhE9IACWag -- The Skånska Järnvägar had an E2 leading this 2012 Yule Train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkZONZvfGU -- 2013 Santa Train on the Ohsa Railway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDm_iB9HoyQ -- There may not be any steamers left on Gotland, but they do have a class Z4 diesel to haul their Santa Train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmY_Thg337M -- Anything to do with Christmas in Sweden will be incomplete without a lucia procession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg4G-tWQF94 -- Deinste, Germany, where a Santa Train runs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrY8AaEAWw -- There is one on the Berlin City Railway as well.

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56840 No.122278   [Reply]

How do the Japanese have such advanced trains, /rail/?

Surely their eyesight must be of terrible detriment to locomotive development.

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>In practice it works out pretty nicely as well.

Perhaps it's a Japanese thing. Pretty much everywhere else in the world "competition" just means price or service matching, and the "innovation" comes from finding new ways to bilk their customers. See for instance abuse of "unlimited" in various businesses, tethering as a service in telecomms, or cinema ticket pricing.

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I do love how each operator has their own distinct feeling.

But (ignoring Keio because they're a bit slow) the Hankyu 1000 does really have a special allure. It's the combination of past and future. The same brown and green finish, round handles from 100 years ago mixed with LED lighting, IGBT drive, Linedeliers™ and discreet LCD panels. In the end, it's classy. But I think the apex of Hankyu is the Kyo-Train. For no additional fare, you get a rather comfortable weekend journey.

JR East's approach is probably representative of Tokyo's cultural sense. All about money and being disposable. The very latest and greatest, but not designed to last - kind of like a Replicant.

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Greece has a high population density, welfare state, and all the other makings that make Japan great for rail, so why isn't Greece just as much a train wonderland? Germoney keeps giving them Euros for public works.

Please note, Greece is considerably less autistic.

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$ test trains = autism

The Japanese have a serious and real need to get the most work possible out of each and every single drop of (imported and bloody expensive) oil. The commuter train is about the most efficient way there is to transport huge masses of people to and from work/school, especially the electric multiple since it needs a huge lot less oil than an equivalent fleet of buses.

>> No.122430  

Why haven't you faggots just pruned the thread yet and banned the OP?

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Not everything in competition in Japan is good, but in general it is. Better quality does means a higher price and people are prepared to pay for that, because they can. Compare the ride quality of a Tōbu 50000 with a JR equivalent or any other A-Train based rolling stock and you immediately see what's up. Same with the Tōkyu 5000s, which seem to like to turn into an accordion when bumping into its own cars (see pic, crash from last winter on the Tōkyū Tōyoko line), whereas the JR East equivalents, E231/E233, don't bend much at all (recent JR Keihin-Tōhoku crash). The cost of travelling on JR is however higher than on private lines.


Your little world of self induced autistic supremacy sure is cozy huh?

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So far, I have no experience travelling in the Kansai area with local trains (only Shinkansen), but from what I've heard it's more comfortable than in the Kanto. Box seats (or semi-cross) all around and more atmosphere in general.

From the Kanto area, the trains with the most atmosphere in a classic sense are of course the older models (Keisei 3000, Keikyū 800, Tōkyu 8500, etc.), but the more recent models also offer quite excellent ride quality for what they are (E231/E233, Tōkyō Metro 16000, etc.) of course, the interior is bland and corporate. Functional and made to fit in the sheer number of passengers. However, there are always examples like the Tōkyō Metro 10000 (pic related) that stand out a little. Maybe because it was designed by a German guy. Also the new Ginza Line 1000 series is quite pleasant to see from the inside.

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JR Central and JR West like to use transverse seating on 3 door trains (except for some 313). And much like in Sydney fashion, the seats can be flipped. For whatever reason though (probably just psychological), it hurt more to stand in those trains even for a trip as short as Osaka -> Shin Osaka. Even if the train only had 5 people per car standing, it must be the thought that you're a small portion, adding to that seeing someone fall asleep slumped on the wall, not unusual in the greater sense but much unlike the collective. Whereas in Tokyo, it just seemed natural to stand.

On the other hand, apparently JR West knows that people are exploiting the fact that ungated stations and especially those without ticket facilities exist. Of course, unlike Sydney, they seemingly won't bill you $200 and make you feel like a criminal.
Normally it's only a thing on the Tokaido Shinkansen, overnight trains and some limited express. Or from personal experience, the Kyushu Shinkansen if they think you're fucking with them

>go to Kagoshima
>spend all of 15 minutes in the cold
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Oy vey, the goyim are on to the autism conspiracy. Quick Schlomo, hide the fluoride.

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Happy Chanuka to you, too.

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