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81807 No.120305   [Reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcmukexl-aY and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqLX8ekkO08 -- The BR Class 14[234] Pacer is a long-wheelbase vehicle that rides on axles, not bogies/trucks, hence it tends to bounce and skip on imperfect track. It's especially visible in the gangway.

(Pic from Wikicommons)

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>> No.120316  
>middle seat on a train
>no washrooms
>dat bounce

I'll take those nice shiny class 165s or whatever they are. Pick up the slack, Northern!

>> No.120317  

I'm not sure if it was direct involvement. I could e-mail him and ask, but I don't like bugging the old guy because I think he's sick. If he wasn't directly involved, he knew enough about the story to tell it.

In light of the fact that the site hosting this video has web 1.0 credentials and looks like it'll fall down at any moment, I re-hosted it on youtube some time ago for my own purposes. At some point in this (maybe during the Q@A) he talks about pacers and how they relate to HSFV-1, COV-ABs and godawful ride quality.

The big joke, of course, is this:
You can stand at Darlington/York and watch APTs go by all day in the form of Pacers & Class 91s, but nobody will ever know. I kinda wish they'd kept the APT-U monkier, now...

>> No.120319  

Thanks for sharing that video.
Hope he gets better soon.

Anyway, speaking of the APT-U have there ever been proposals to actually equip them with the tilting mechanism or did the closure of all the UK based rolling stock makers mean it would just be cheaper to buy more Pendelinos?

>> No.120324  

My father had his motion sickness triggered once by looking down the gangway of a Pacer in flight.

Rumours are that some TOCs are getting a bit slack on their maintenance in the hope that enough of them fail to justify replacing them a bit earlier than the planned 2019, when their RVAR accessibility waivers run out.

>> No.120351  

Nope. It'd be pointless on the ECML anyway. Our Lord and Saviour built his railway nice'n straight and nice'n wide. The whole thing is good for 100+mph, unlike the WCML north of Crewe, which is a shit alignment in general.

Allegedly (I suspect this is bullshit, but it was reported in the Railway Magazine) the space set aside for tilt packs was lost during some kind of upgrade program GNER did.

>> No.120356  

So really all that's necessary for HS running is a new signaling system?

>> No.120359  

The signalling system was in place from 1989 - the flashing-green aspect was created for >125mph running (see link), and with super-duper TPWS it'd be adequately safe, but nobody is interested in it anymore. BR tried it out, said that they were concerned about signal sighting and reaction times and that was more or less that.

I don't think the business case exists for it anymore, anyway. The prevalance of slower traffic on the ECML (Shitloads of Class 185s) basically means that the faster they make the 91s go, the more paths they use up (even with flight dispatch timetables) and going 140 compared to 125 entices passengers less than 125 compared to 100.

>> No.120365  


>britbongs invented the wheelset for most HSR sets out there

Something new everyday...

>> No.120366  


>Spackman has to take a moment to think about what rail company bought up what company

Good god if that doesn't illustrate how frantic those buyouts were I don't know what does.
Also I know I should probably just email him directly but does anyone here know what the difference between the two systems Bombardier owns (APT/LRC) are?

>> No.120374  

I looked into patents and shit once, they are quite radically different, but both are self-centering hydraulic tilt systems. They do the same thing, but the mechanisms are distinct.

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80387 No.120246   [Reply]

Banner material?

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>> No.120329  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eggIeHnQW6c -- Oughta make a big thumbs-up banner for this driver.

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36280 No.120286   [Reply]
>let's slow the trains down instead of maintaining the tracks to a decent standard
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>> No.120288  

Exactly. It's just another reason to stick it to the oil companies.
I'm all for taxing and regulating those fucks into a corner but goddamn don't blame the railroad for carrying that shit.

Has anyone ever made a list of all the highly explosive shit that gets hauled by rail that isn't crude?

>> No.120289  
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All sorts of highly explosive, highly hazardous shit gets shipped by rail. Once, I waited for an Amtrak train and watched a train hauling Israeli containers full of potassium fluoride go by; if that shit wrecked, a lot of people wouldn't be having a good time. Probably the only people who cared were the protestors picketing the Port of Tacoma when the ship carrying it all came in, and that was only because the ship was owned by Israeli interests.

But hey, none of the dangerous chemicals and gases hauled by train are enough to get people all butthurt if they don't level an entire town after a series of catastrophic fuck-ups.


>> No.120290  
>40 mph trains just because of oil

That's fucking pathetic. Absolutely would have rippling effects across other commodities. Enjoy Amtrak being later, crews dying, and grain being even later.

Oil isn't even that "explosive" it's just flammable and loads of flammable shit is shipped by rail and even more things that are orders of magnitude more dangerous for the environment and people.

>> No.120295  

Why do people keep talking about Megantic? What is it about that accident that proves transporting crude is akin to hauling armed nukes around? Did none of these assholes read the TSB report?

Isn't bleach even more flammable than some of this crude?

>> No.120298  

Apparently not. All that report proved to me is that you can't trust engineers to tie hand brakes.

>> No.120299  

It's too long
Let's see a small scope of things that can be carried by freight rail. Although as someone training in chem. eng., they're far from the scary end of the spectrum. Anything truly scary would be transported a lot more carefully (ha!) and otherwise explodes if you just look at it the wrong way (those things chemists touch, we can sit in a room :3).

Ethylene Oxide (previously covered) - basically fucks many things it touches to death
Anhydrous H2SO4 - benign on its own, but the moment a single dab of water vapour makes contact the whole thing turns into liquid rape, now with vapours
HF - cloud of death. nuff said. Oh wait, there's more. Water makes it liquid death that eats through glass
Soy sauce - self explanatory
Chlorine - green gas? what could possibly go wrong?
Wikipedia and youtube can fill in the gaps. Anything that goes bang proper won't go by rail, it'll be made on site or in small containers for lab use.

>> No.120300  


>That feel when in any given day working the hump job I'll switch out all of those cars.

Oh, and some hydrogen cyanide.

>> No.120301  
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Because alarmist activists only focus on the blow-up, instead of the why. "The environment" is a tired excuse that mostly falls on deaf ears. But put a human toll on it, and you're going somewhere.

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NIMBY lifestyle?
Golly! Then building a pipeline would solve all the problems, right? Is there no end to the fear mongering these guys will go to?

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Nobody can be pleased either way. Too bad that the anti-oil train crowd is getting traction through political fuckery and annoying direct action campaigns.

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67281 No.120269   [Reply]

Network SouthEast staff video, "About Time":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqd0FOESotA -- pt.1 (8m)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXtbuhO0wmA -- pt.2 (5m)

A Day In The Life Of NSE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJoqdSmOkYc -- pt.1 (6m)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNT9HWnXrms -- pt.2 (6m)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULj6UpGAyU -- Inside Story: Old, Dirty and Late (0h48m)

>> No.120270  

Choob stock?

>> No.120271  

Yep. Pic took off the Wikipedia article on NSE.

>> No.120272  

Waterloo and City was run by SR, then BR, prior to handover to LUL

>> No.120273  

Sessha thinks this is a weird-weird world.

>> No.120274  

... as further demonstrated by...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jxddyFHx-A -- You know it's not your day when... you have to push your train past gawkers with camera-phones. (1m20s)

>> No.120275  

I need more 1980s BR training videos in my life. They're really quite charming.

>> No.120277  

http://www.britishrailways.tv/ -- Looks like a right nice link farm if a tad slow at times.
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95499 -- Someone asked for training videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHj7C4l3mk -- A route training video for Brighton->Hove->Brighton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqQSrrXmrjk -- Merseyside Route Learner (1h26m)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1k3sREyYFo -- "Braking in snow"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrsBkEbCluE or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8UDodqm1jc -- "SPAD - Don't let it happen to you" (0h27m)

Some other stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dNBe0ztOCo -- Keeping Britain on Track: Standing Room Only (0h58m)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRbrtj3FWoo and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRVhA-uI5ME -- The Tube - Under Attack 1 (0h23m total)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6BxSbx1Fm0 -- The Day Britain Stopped (BBC, 1h29m)

>> No.120304  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12H88CqGocI -- "Derailed" (BBC, 1h32m) Based on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladbroke_Grove_rail_crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz34YpGCUj4 -- Seconds From Disaster ep. about the same.

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48517 No.120046   [Reply]

Is Piko a good model railway brand or a shit one?

Pic related, what I just ordered from them

>> No.120050  

The track is unlike anybody else's, so compatability may be an issue. On the other hand, they have a wide selection of track, particularly in small-radius/tight clearance stuff so often found on bookshelf layouts. I've never owned any Pico rolling stock, but I've not heard anything egregiously bad about it, either.

>> No.120060  


I ran the engine on Bachmann EZ track to test it out and it worked like a dream

>> No.120063  

Piko used to be shit. It's now much higher up in the pecking order. Just don't get the super cheap stuff.

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I've heard good things and been impressed by what I've seen. They're not providing the insane amount of detail that has given newcomers like L.S. Models, ACME, Jaegerndorfer and whatnot the lead, but I've been impressed by what I've seen. One fellow of my club has a mostly complete ICE 3 which runs beautifully and has impressive light & sound functionality. The Classic and Expert lines look to be great resources for the prototypes offered there. I would say that they're just about on par with the mainstream of European manufacturers--Roco, Brawa, Hornbylimajouefrivarossi, etc. with the caveat that they seem to have a bit of an East German focus given the company's origins and are impressively inexpensive.

I'd buy from them if they fit my interests. They just don't venture much into Austrian prototypes.

>> No.120079  
>Boku no Piko
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>>120079 >Boku no Piko


>> No.120268  


>those couplers
>ordering a 'train set'

Not even once.

>> No.120278  

Ever since LGB (the-creme-de-la-creme brand) went bankrupt and its God-tier American branch went out of business, PIKO has been the sort of back-up high-quality German brand for getting nice American style G-scale trains. They aren't quite as awesome as LGB, but it's better than nothing.

>> No.120296  


>dammit Kartma!

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316611 No.120005   [Reply]

This pic and the resulting thread had me wondering: Is there a DMU or an EMU sonewhere that would look good in white and woodgrain?

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>> No.120129  

Thanks for the info m8.

>> No.120142  

Several cities had vague plans to use some wireless system, but of course downtown sections are unsuitable for this as they are used by all lines and that would mean all old trains to be equipped with that system (which sometimes isn't even possible).

Heidelberg currently has realistic plans to use Bombardier's system on the new university line, their new trams are already equipped with the capacitors.

>> No.120149  

Aside: There is also a Zwickau model. The Vogtlandtalbahn (Vogtland Valley Railway) has modified its RegioSprinter diesels so they can run as trams within Zwickau.


>> No.120163  


Huh, didn't know that, thx.

>> No.120170  
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Getting back on topic, is this white and woodgrain enough for you?

>> No.120173  

>>120149 -- Another bridge too far... This time mashing the Vogtlandbahn and Rurtalbahn together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaaShW8tYto -- Leading cab view from a Rurtalbahn RegioSprinter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvRmQQZAJOU -- On the Vogtlandbahn. Has some nice leading cab views.

>> No.120239  

Wireless tram systems (i.e. systems using third rail energized in sections covered by the vehicle) is another fad that will pass. They are very expensive compared to catenary, very failure-prone and worse of all, proprietary, locking you into a manufacturer's closed system.

They only make sense when creating new tram lines in tourist trap locations where catenary is not considered very aesthetic (but then catenaries of heritage lines in such places are considered aesthetic so whatever).

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What about battery-powered trams with inductive charging at line's end?

>> No.120241  


If it's a heritage/tourist/attraction line, okay. For normal public transit lines. not really. Inductive charging is generally inefficient (unless you fork out cash for very advanced systems that costs a lot) and batteries as the main mode of power storage are not ideal (expensive to replace).

>> No.120257  


So far, all I'm seeing of this format are little tourist/shopper shuttles in Los Angeles.

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67396 No.119996   [Reply]

Rajdhani Express Train lunch

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The best lunches are best bought in advance at the station.

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true as fuark

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There's only one station-based doner business I trust

>> No.120206  

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a reference to cannibalism or not..

>> No.120207  


So apparently whoever runs the doner kebab stand at Nuremburg's Central Station is a huge weeaboo?

>> No.120213  
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To think that Miako is such a glutton.






As seen in this cannibalistic gif.

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(not my picture, but the first ekiben I had was almost identical to this, just the pickles in the top left corner were different)

Ahh the ekiben. tbh, neither underwhelming or overwhelming as there's two sides on a collision course for me. On one hand, it's fucking delicious and there's so many varieties. On the other hand (and this extends to department store bento too), there's this distinct and scary manufactured feel to them. When you buy them at the station, they're generally wrapped in the same plastic that you otherwise see things like DVDs and game consoles wrapped in and they're cold. The upside I guess is that the shock of not being given chopsticks is alleviated as you find the chopsticks are inside.

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Once Amtrak moves into Freighthouse Square in Tacoma, this is what rail travelers will have in store.

Right now, the only way you can get food from here to eat on the train is if you're taking the afternoon reverse commute up to Seattle on the Sounder. And there are people who have; makes the train smell real nice.

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17638 No.119803   [Reply]

Could ALCO have survived in the diesel-electric locomotive business past the 1960s? Were the locomotives themselves faulty or was it an issue of not being able to compete for market share against GE and EMD with their limited resources?

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we export units now?

>> No.120066  


Where in Japan is this?

>> No.120067  
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google tells somewhere around Sao Paolo, Brazil

>> No.120124  


Trains in Brazil always like to use Murrican locomotives.

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Bump for RS1, etc switchers

>> No.120218  
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It's pretty sad that despite pioneering the concept of a road switcher, ALCO was never able to capitalize on this achievement, being quickly eclipsed by EMD and later betrayed by GE when the latter entered the diesel locomotive business themselves.

They were also victims of an upper management born and bred for the steam locomotive business that viewed diesels as a fad into the post-WW2 years.

You can definitely see the Alco influence on the designs of the GE Universal series.

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FUN FACT: All ALCO switchers prior to the T-6 used a "5" series diesel engine, usually a 539T. But all 5-engines owe the bulk of their engineering to the 531... introduced in 1931! ALCO had a definite head start in diesel engines.

... and the very last 539 block ever cast went to repower the very first 531 switcher.

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>dem nose notches
>o ya bby
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ТЭМ2, the RSD-1's Soviet cousin.

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Pro tip, don't get caught in a crash and burn.

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1441093 No.120227   [Reply]

I need a bit of technical help here and I didn't know where to go. I figured you'd guy would be easier on me since it involves a bit of piracy. I pirated some Railworks DLC because fuck paying $20 for a Loco. For a route? That's reasonable. Loco? No way! (my copy of the game is legit though).

Anyways, the files came in separate folders, Assets, Manual, etc. Pretty self explanatory, just add them into the RW directory and combine the folder contents when Windows asks to or not. I do all this and then go into the editor, select the publisher, and the train is there. I load the assets and then go to the train list, but the loco isn't there. If I go back to the asset list the add-on is gone, and not listed. This is has happened 3 times now, and nothing fixes it. If the add-on is .rpk then it loads and runs perfectly fine. For some reason RW hates it when files are added manually. The locos even pop up under Quick Drive, but they won't load into the route. Any ideas?

Also to salvage this thread, post Railworks pics or something.

>> No.120228  

They added some anti-piracy crap in the 2013 version so older pirated DLC works but the newer stuff doesn't.
Just download a pirated version and replace its content and assets folder with yours.

RW is a real mess I hope they do move to the UE engine next year, it'll make freeware content a lot more attractive.

>> No.120230  

That explains it then. I'll check out a crack and see if it works.

>RW is a real mess

It really is. It has to be one of the buggiest games I've played.Even without any addon's it finds a way to break itself.

>> No.120231  

You need a steam emulator to use pirated RSC/DTG addons. SmartSteamEmu works well.

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It works! Drove the 14xx around a bit in Quick Drive and everything was fine. Gonna copy over my assets and content and get rid of the steam install. Thanks a lot anon!

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