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1546422 No.118668   [Reply]

In another news, a glimpse into the day's reckoning in Sydney. Of all days for it to happen too.
Rare 8 car DMU formation which comprises almost 1/3 of all commuter DMUs out of Sydney got screwed because they derailed on the way in.
Chatswood station caught fire
Car drove onto the tracks at Rhodes (not roads!)
Whiteshirts (ticket nazis) out in full force

Welcome to Sydney
images credit: smh, railcorp memes, wherearethetransportofficersat?, sydney trains

Railway cockups general, and broader context since Oil Trains have been covered elsewhere

>> No.118669  
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Haha oh fuck

>> No.118673  

>>118669
What's with the new T1-T6 numbering system? What was wrong with just the line names?
Seems much more complex for no benefit.

>> No.118674  
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>>118673
Garbage thought up by gladys' team. It's meant to imply that if something goes wrong under T#, then all lines under T# are stuffed. Of course, today proves that doesn't always hold true. And it definitely does confuse, it implies that you can travel from Richmond to Berowra directly. Incidentally, it also spelled the death of the Inner West line

Or there's the idea of labelling things under letters and colours when the old system of little pictures also used all over the world worked perfectly. I know what the F stands for, and it isn't Ferry. It's a case of ego, of the bunch thinking they're bigger than they really. Sure, if it was something like Tokyo Metro or JR then I'd understand, but even for them it's a logo rather than a T on an orange background. Considering CityRail's reputation, a T doesn't have any brand identity, at least the CityRail L7 logo was something people remembered and stood itself out.
/rant

>> No.118676  

>>118674

>complaining about universal labelling

It's worked wonders in New York, why wouldn't it work in Sydney?

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>>118676
Ambiguity. T may imply taxi or tram, especially with the lollipop signs. The birds also agree, shitting all over them.
It screams being unable to afford the other letters. B is for Bitch.
Letters and colours are fine for lines, but inappropriate for transport modes. A symbol such as a picture of a train (or a box with 2 line poking out of it) is more universal than the letter T. The decision was also condemned by designers

The other issue is that the new maps contain less information than the old one. In the old one, the lines were more colour coded. Now you have a slew of lines under the same colour too. And two separate maps.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/b-is-for-bus-but-designers-prefer-pictograms-for-nsw-transport-signs-20140211-32fu6.html

Or there's the new signage they're dumping on stations which only show the station name among a heap of blue space instead of showing available connections and directions of exit.

>> No.118678  

>>118677
Ah. So they really half-assed it.
Has anyone suggested copying the roundel designs from Paris or London?



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156187 No.118403   [Reply]

You are now aware this is what will happen to the hokuriku area as a result of the nagano shinkansen to become the hokuriku shinkansen

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>> No.118633  

>>118626

>More like the same old pork-barrel bullshit from the Liberal Democrats just like they've been doing for the past 50 years

Yeah but they raised muh taxes this time and are trying to get wide eyed yankee to stop camping in the mighty land of the rising sun.

Seriously though isn't just a bunch of economic reforms that push for investments and raise taxes?

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>>118633

Raise taxes (next year to 10%), invest in new domestic military gadgets and road building programs. Cut down on rural railway lines, make everybody buy a car. Buy cars with increased taxes, get money, get power. Medabots. Also, TPP. Japan Inc.

>> No.118647  

>>118646

>inflating domestic car maker production

How are they going to prevent rolling stock builders from going belly up if investments are put in roads? Just keep building new stock every 10 years?

Anyway, what's the gas tax like in Japan? I imagine they could make some sweet tax money through that.

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>>118646

>invest in new domestic military gadgets

"It's not an aircraft carrier, we swear!"

>> No.118653  

>>118647
Gas in Japan in more expensive than in the US, but AFAIK still cheaper than in Europe.

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>>118652

Through deck cruiser, sure thing.

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>>118647

Short lifespan on rolling stock and expand abroad (see Hitachi and its A-Train). Also, there is ALWAYS a demand for new domestic rolling stock, albeit focused on commuter trains. Commuter traffic is highly unlikely to convert to personal motoring.

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Slowly but surely. The world will be a different place in 2035. Meanwhile in Sydney

>S sets probably still running 60 years strong
>Waratahs probably set to run until 2070s
>Chuo Shinkansen running a breeze
>JR E239.999 is probably the hot commuter train of the day, they didn't bother changing the rules for naming so it has to stay within *23X
>The advent of 3D printing alloys has resulted in making it possible to design a train with a 2 year lifespan
>N700 is museum material

How is the popularity contest going anyway? This never gets old. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still pinned there with the marking someone did.

>> No.118670  

>>118667

>advent of 3D printing alloys

Anon, that's already possible. But with proper industrial equipment, not toys like modern shit passed as 3D "printers" to idiots.

>> No.118672  

>>118670
Directly 3D printing them is still in the cutting edge (pun intended) arena

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-247



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790677 No.118610   [Reply]

It's been nearly a year since I took these pictures, but today is that day.

>> No.118611  
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Yes, it's her day...

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Even the toilet is guarded by a yokai.

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Yes.

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Good job, Snail.



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436515 No.118468   [Reply]
>4501 under steam again
>no thread of rejoicing on 1chan

I am disappoint.

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There is now! Although I feel it'd be more worthy of a black tie ball. Black... no more of this green nonsense, y'hear?

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>implying anyone cares about steam engines anymore

That's so 19th century. We gensets now.

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>>118474
could there be such a thing as a steam genset? could you put a self-contained steam generator on a pallet, drop 2 or 3 of them into a locomotive, hook them up to a common water source and a steam pipe leading to the cylinders, and just fire up boilers as you need them? this could be a major breakthrough.

>> No.118504  

>>118488
Steam-electric locomotives were a thing.

So were electric-steam, but we don't talk about that.

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Oh hey there! Sorry, was to busy having a blast this weekend with the 4501.

>> No.118567  

>>118543
I'm overjoyed to learn that grandpa's vision and power steering held out long enough for your safe return to the deep south!

>> No.118590  

>>118543

Black foamers? They really exist?

>> No.118661  

>>118567 Happy it did too.

>>118590 And women too... They're like unicorns.



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320115 No.118340   [Reply]

In terms of profits and services, what was the "Golden Age" for American railroads?

I'm guessing sometime between the 1940s to 1970s or the first two decades of the twentieth century.

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Definitely the early-to-mid 20th Century. Before air travel became faster and cheaper.

>> No.118351  

Streetcar and railway traffic peaked in 1919 after that passenger traffic began to move to the car.
Although the 40s did bring somewhat of a resurgence it slowly died off as the 50s marched on.

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1940's, moving the wartime tonnage and passengers, with strict gas and rubber rationing killing most competition, was without a doubt their finest hour.

>> No.118562  

1913.

That was the year when the route for the first transcontinental highway in the US was mapped. Trains more-or-less had a monopoly on transcontinental travel in the US up to that point.

>> No.118563  

Death blow: 1967

From Wikipedia:

>When the post office made a controversial policy change to process mail in large regional "sectional centers," mail was now sorted by large machines, not by people, and the remaining railway post office routes, along with all highway post office routes, were phased out of service. In September 1967 the POD cancelled all "rail by mail" contracts, electing to move all First Class mail via air and other classes by road (truck) transport. This announcement had a devastating effect on passenger train revenues; the Santa Fe, for example, lost $35 million (US) in annual business, and led directly to the ending of many passenger rail routes.


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595359 No.118416   [Reply]

Seattle will find the Packers tougher than anticipated, but whether they shelve the hubris... or crank it up a notch... Seahawks will prevail. They ARE everything The Raiders pretend to be.

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In the end, a somewhat unlikely 36-16 score, but a Seattle win just as predicted.

Maybe the game was more Dynasty Builder but the spirit was pure Empire Builder .

>> No.118430  
>football narrative

epicwin Commodore!

>> No.118431  

>>118419
That's what happens when you take multi-track drifting too far.

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Seattle running back Marshawn "Beast Mode" Lynch and the Cascades Talgo have a lot in common: they're fast, they've got the moves, and they're "all bout dat action, boss".

>> No.118451  

>>118431

It's what happens when you a hire a bus driver to do the job of a motorman... She ran a red then tried to back up.

>> No.118453  

>>118451

Sadly, it seems you gotta be a bus driver before you can be hired as a train driver at Sound Transit. Same with Trimet.

>> No.118458  

>>118453
Dallas Area Rapid Transit just started doing the same thing. The union filed a grievance since DART was hiring people off the street to operate the light rail. Why that mattered, I don't know. I've been invited to join the DART guys a couple of times, but I've declined because I like being a juice jack, not a bus bum.

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>>118458

I remember talking to a retired Trimet bus driver on the Coast Starlight. She had been offered a position as a MAX operator, but she declined since bus and MAX had different seniority structures (she would have given up her high bus seniority to be low on the train driver totem pole).

I honestly don't know what the rationale is with transit agencies thinking that you gotta drive buses before you can drive trains. All I can figure is "lol unions".

>> No.118555  

>>118462

>lol unions

Pretty much it. From my experiences, this is how it works at the Toronto Transit Commission too, basically everyone is hired on as a bus (or sometimes streetcar) driver, and you have to work your way up (heh) into the subway. It's because the subway drivers deal with far less bullshit that bus drivers.

>> No.118557  

>>118555
Fun fact: it's actually the reverse in Montreal because the subway system is automated.



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>> No.118481  

Is CSX officially the worst major railroad currently in existence?

>> No.118482  

>>118481

Nah shit like this happens all the time. This is lack of Traction Control crap on the SD50.

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Some of us sure like to think so.
I have family working there, so I refrain from saying what CSX stands for.

Their new rail grinder doesn't require a special train, though!

>> No.118487  

>>118481
I mean that depends, are we still counting Amtrak as a railroad. Or is it more of a bus service these days?

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Just a few days ago I had a consist of seven CSXT locomotives with three of them having 'early stages of locked axles' from the BNSF.

As I said before In a early post, CSXT and CP are both playing games on locomotive availability to affect stock price.

>> No.118539  

>>118536

>DOT and the FRA allow this shit to happen

Why the fuck we have regulatory bodies if they can't prevent Class 1s from playing around with their locos.

>> No.118550  

>>118536
Whatchu' tryin' to say, brah?

That CSX and CP engineers are beating the crap out of power so that it makes it more scarce? And that they're in cahoots with the management?



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134019 No.118361   [Reply]

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>>118406
Aren't GP7s designed to run long hood forward though?

To follow up: what are the mechanical differences/advantages for running trains in certain directions? Like, why in a set of two engines will there be one with the cab facing forward and one facing backward (ass to ass)? Is there any specific reason for that?

Pic related.

>> No.118480  

>>118476
I'd assume their motors can do either direction with equal efficiency.
If you have a set facing each direction, you don't need to turn. You might bring a train in with the north-facing unit leading and run around or take another with the south-facing unit in the lead.

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>>118476
the bulk of hood units into the 50s or 60s were built with the long hood as the F end. it's pretty easy to reconfigure them though, railroads ordered them both ways. ironically SOU GP9s were all ordered short hood forward.

>> No.118489  

Does the orientation of the cab correlate with the electrical cabinet being moved to the short end of the loco?

>> No.118490  

>>118489

No. The only difference between long hood forward and short hood forward was which direction and therefore side of the cab the control stand faced. Some locomotives even have two control stands.

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street running DAT ASS

>> No.118493  

>>118476
Just because they were designed to doesn't mean it's right.

Besides that, it was a former Santa Fe geep. I don't think they ever had a preference towards running long hood forward. After they removed the boiler from the short hood and chopped the nose down, it was very clear which was front.

There's nothing quite the same of the feeling you get as you're looking behind you and seeing the first car perfectly fine, but then looking forward and only seeing one half of the world in front of you. It's seriously like being entirely blind in one eye.

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>>118493
Santa Fe was a perennial smarty-pants to EMD, but they were usually right.

>I don't think they ever had a preference towards running long hood forward.

Santa Fe insisted upon short hood forward. Long hood forward was done as a courtesy to the engine crews who were accustomed to having significant grade-crossing protection up front. ATSF's early and extensive use of F-units had already broken the unions of that habit.

>> No.118497  

>>118467

>Ask for the engineer to turn up the A/C
>Hey motherfucker! Those are your boxcars back there, but these are my engines! Don't you forget it!
>> No.118498  

>>118476
No difference at all other than visibility, really.



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587786 No.118405   [Reply]

Just something I stumbled across while looking for something else... but, DAMN! This is why b&w isn't just bleached-out color photography.

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Damn, for a minute, I thought that was a Christmas card.

Well done, good sir.

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>>118405

>7470

I know that engine!

>> No.118413  

Shot on the January the 5th of 2013 with a Nikon D600. I'm wondering if that isn't a heavily edited colour picture (HDR, b/w, sharpening, the works). I don't really know though. I'm no photographer.

>> No.118415  

>>118413
I wouldn't be surprised... but the important thing is a thorough understanding of the b&w esthetic.

>> No.118428  

>>118405
oh god so much HDR

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>>118413
Well the exposure says it all. To get the front of the train lit like that, you'd have to push the shadows or HDR it.
With BW film, you'd need to get ISO1600 or 3200 and know the exposure of the black of the train perfectly and have a filter shaded for that specific scenario.
On that note, I need to get the Tri-X run through a decent quality scanner. I kind of regret using black and white film though since I was too hasty to make it a learning experience. It's actually a rather fine film, just the scanner is garbage. Never mind the sexiness of Velvia slide film.

>> No.118456  

>>118405

The thumbnail makes it look like a charcoal or graphite drawing.

>> No.118457  

>>118429

If you have access to a darkroom, look into split-filtering your prints. You take the greatest Low Contrast filter and expose your print to the point where the highlights just begin to disappear. Note that time. Then you take your greatest High Contrast filter and do the same for the shadows. Note that time. Start a new print and expose the negative exposure, then (and don't touch the paper or the negative!) swap the Low filter for the High filter and continue to expose.

Et voila, properly exposed highlights and shadows.

You CAN pull a usable image out of nearly any negative, but whether it'll achieve the artistic effect you're going for is another question entirely. Dodge, burn, dodge, burn, test strip, test strip, test strip and so on. You're going to waste a lot of paper, but you'll eventually get a beautiful print.



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133340 No.118423   [Reply]

Which comes first: industry or the railroad? Does the railroad's arrival stimulate economic development along the line or does the railroad tap into existing markets and build to industry?

>> No.118424  

The real answer is "it depends."

Some industries specifically choose to locate along a rail line so they can be serviced.

Other times a railroad will build a line to an industry if they feel that the cost will be justified.

>> No.118425  

>>118424
This is true. There are examples on both sides regarding the role of railroads in building up manufacturing centers.

Prominent cities which gained power through the arrival of railroads:
-Los Angeles
-Houston
-Kansas City
-Chicago
-Atlanta
-Denver
-Reno
-Most major cities west of the Mississipi, really

Prominent cities that were already powerful before railroads but benefited from their arrival:
-New York

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>> No.118426  

>>118425

If you look at it another way though, each of the cities that was prominent before the railroad was a major hub of transportation. IN the case of St Louis, it was a major riverboat hub, but before that it was a Native American center of population probably die to the fact that it is at the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers. The other four on your list are definitely due to the oceanic shipping routes.

>> No.118427  

>>118426
Good point. So a general statement could be made that the arrival of railroads enhance the economic activity of already existing transportation hubs, which achieved previous success through favorable geography and direct access to the ocean and navigable rivers. The development of other, newer, economic centers was made possible by the arrival of railroads, whose presence allowed these cities to bypass previous environmental limits to growth as a result of being distant from water access. So basically the railroad was crucial to the development and growth of the western United States in the late 19th and early twentieth centuries. Basically Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Bakersfield, Denver, etc. would/could not exist as they do now if not for artificial transportation networks like railroads which allow for their existence despite disadvantageous natural geography.

>> No.118452  

>>118427

Yes.

>> No.118454  

In the far north, little middle-of-nowhere towns like Spokane and Billings owe their existence to the railroads. (Never mind that Billings was named in honor of a railroad executive.)



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