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176601 No.116461   [Reply]

I'm doing a little scientific-ish experiment to see which steam railroad is the best using only metric data related to them, including the original opening date of the line, the length of mainline track, number of steam locomotives, and number of diesel locomotives. All the numbers in each of those four areas are graded together on a bell curve and then averaged to get an overall score for each railroad (score increases the older it is, the longer it is, the more steamers it has, and the fewer diesels it has). Right now I only have a selection of North American railroads that have at least one or two working steamers.

The overall top scoring railroads in North America according to this spreadsheet are...

1: Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad
2: Durango & Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad
3: Cass Scenic Railroad State Park

What do you think of this?

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>> No.116750  

>>116584 I thought they didn't notch down the SD70Ace assist loco and got pushed with the independent applied?

(and agreed on the idiot part)

>> No.116755  

There's nothing scientific about some arbitrary ranking formula.

What's the point of ranking them anyway? They're all toys and museum pieces.

>> No.116758  


That's what they want you to think...

>> No.116764  

That's why I said scientific-ISH. Also, several of those places are on the NRHP and a handful have National Historic Landmark Status. Calling them "toys" is inappropriate.

>> No.116767  
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Here's a revised version of the one I posted earlier today. It has one additional railroad museum in Canada and a new railroad type added: Steam Fairs. Those places are unusual in that their railroads only operate like one or two weekends per year when their steam fairs are going on. Steam tractors and other old timey farming equipment galore!

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...and its table.

Also, I mentioned that I was going to make one more large update, but I'm not so sure, as many of the remaining US/CA railroads from the steamlocomotive dot com website are obscure, tiny ones no one has ever heard of before. I'll add them if any of you guys have an interest in seeing them added, though.

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Ah, screw it. I added the remaining ones. I almost went insane trying to find the info for this stuff, but I got it.

What you see here is every known, presently-operating steam train operation in the US & Canada that have at least one working steam locomotive and tracks on which to run them. There are 173 in all.

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...and here's its table.

As far as future expansions are concerned, that's doubtful. Finding this info for these railroads was very difficult, so I can only imagine how hard it will be to find info for railroads in places like China that are poorer, not English-speaking, have little to no web presence, and no high-def Google Earth images to measure the routes. At the most, if any expansion is attempted, it will just be for the remaining White-majority Anglosphere countries (UK, Ireland, Austraila, and New Zealand).

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Also, here's a table with the same data that ranks the US states and provinces as a whole. There are 45 US states and 6 Canadian provinces represented.

Top 3:

Interestingly, on a similar, much larger spreadsheet on roller coasters worldwide that I have been working on for the past 5 years, the top 3 US/Canada places are California, Ohio, and Pennsylvania (#1 worldwide is England). So basically, both spreadsheets together are saying that California and Pennsylvania are the best states.

>> No.116979  

Here are some interesting stats on the spreadsheet related to the averages for all of the railroads put together:

Average opening year: 1940
Average length: 5.82 miles
Average number of steam locomotives: 1.69
Average number of non-steam locomotives: 2.16

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71198 No.116967   [Reply]

Just another day in Africa... waiting for a train to past ... these was the workhorses of Transnet for a long time and will be replaced by the new 20E duel power AC/DC from China

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>> No.116973  

I'm guessing they'll keep them for longer than anticipated when the reliability issues of that Chinese crap emerges...

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1577685 No.116887   [Reply]

Huh? Looks to me like a pair of departmentals (possibly KuMoYa designates) shifting a Kintetsu set. At least they aren't wasting away on a siding...

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>> No.116910  
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The Kintetsu ones are actually called MoTo 51 types and consist of two 2-car sets. They are newly builds with spare parts reused from older rolling stock. Some parts even come from ancient rolling stock from the 1920s!

>> No.116914  

A locomotive to move trains that can otherwise move themselves?

>> No.116921  
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Ever heard of maintenance runs, the transport of new trains that haven't been initialised for opertating on the network, in short the hauling of deadheads? I expected more from you than this man...

>> No.116922  

>>116909 -- Forgot I had seen pix of MoW EMUs on the 'Pedia. Still can't remember where.

>>116910 -- Explains my confusion, 'cause also forgot that JR's KuMoYa:s have three panes on the end, not two.

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Not exactly on topic but it kinda branches
Has anyone figured out or got pictures of what a KuMoYa 145 is like inside?
I understand that it's an inspection car but it just seems rather elusive and details aren't elaborated upon. The KuMoYa145 is also sometimes seeing in multiple working formation of 2 or 3 vehicles. The thing that gets me is the bars on the windows and seemingly toughened looking doors but not cab which makes me wonder if it's actually a money or jail train.

>> No.116927  

So far I have only found an interior pic of KuMoYa 143:

143 series: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84143%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A
145 series: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84145%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A

More: A bit of copy-pasta got me this:
http://nisemarimo.cocolog-wbs.com/pc14500/2007/04/post_38a0.html which has interior pix of 145-122.

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Kintetsu also runs these trains on 1,435mm gauge, plus JR departmental rolling stock is blue (usually), not red. You must have been thinking about the KuMoRu/KuRu units from JNR.

These motor cars were formally used as mail and baggage cars. Hence the windows with bars.

>> No.116945  


Took me a long time to realize that I'm not as smart as I thought I was.

>> No.116958  

>>116944 -- If I was thinking, it was likely that it reminded me of the KuMoYa 22 carrier, so I went with that without checking.

>> No.116964  
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Delicious cute goods EMU. Ah, before their time.

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303439 No.116949   [Reply]

Meanwhile, in Russia was built the most powerful loco EVER. 4ES5K has four 3280 kW 4-axle sections and is equivalent to systems of two 2ES5K which already hauling heavy trains on Far East.


However, E5K series is, so to speak, 4++ generation of electric locos, it has thyristor-impulse control and fully equipped with electronic control and safety systems, but it has brush traction motors. So Transmashholding is preparing to mass production of the new generation ES5 series with AC traction motors.

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Impressive, but nonetheless it is a 4 unit system so can in certain respects be considered 4 locomotives. Just as the IORE was really 2.

Now, the HXD3, now there's a monster. 9600kW single unit. And if one can dig up the pictures, there's one of a chain of 5 in a row with 4 having pantographs up.

I do wonder why they chose to use thyristors though, since IGBT VVVF inverter technology is very well developed and you wouldn't be running the whole lot through a single unit anyway.

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>> No.116955  

Yes, that's a matter of definition. But 3+ unit locos are cheaper (due to less number of cabins) and more convenient in service (you have end-to-end aisle in your loco) than similar systems of separate locos.

> 9600kW single unit.

And still to much axle power is pointless for electric loco, at least for freight one. Because traction force is limited by axle load, further the win will only speed and in practice 55 km/h for calculated mode is quite enough for freight loco. Thus, for 25t axle load you don't really need more than 1100-1200 kW per axle.

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Russia Stronk!

>> No.116957  

I think, @James, that the prototype has DC motors, hence the thyristors.

Also, the unit is a permanently-coupled quadruplet of two A (cabbed) and two B (cabless) units, so one may well regard it as atomic.

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44059 No.116943   [Reply]

A freight train hit a Eurocity passenger train last Friday evening in Mannheim Central Station. No deaths and only five serious casualties.

English text:

German text:

>> No.116946  
>two tipped cars 110 passengers
>entire train 250

The EC216 runs with 6 second class cars (including the cab and the two tipped cars) and 3 first class cars.

So 2 out of 9 cars contain almost half the passengers?

>> No.116950  


They work with reserved and unreserved seats. The two cars were probably fully booked and other cars close to empty, waiting for other passengers along the line. It's not uncommon to see this practice.

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263167 No.116928   [Reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=key-0u2PEMQ -- Sifa demonstration aboard an ICE.

First, a white light shows in the cluster. Then, the computer alerts: "Sifa! ... Sifa! ... Sifa!" Finally, there is a resigned "Sifa Zwangsbremsung ..." as the 'puter commands a 'Sifa forced brake application'.

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As annoying as alerter have to be, this one takes the cake.


>> No.116941  

Oh, the Germans are quite used to this chatterbox, I suppose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80mi33yiH_w -- A Taurus heading into the storm to an occasional interjection from the 'puter: "Zugbeeinfluß" ("Train control") and, at the end, "Störung!" ("Error!") as the main switch trips on the first attempt to get the freight rolling again after stopping on a fallen tree on an uphill section.

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1044936 No.116705   [Reply]

Hello 1chan, its been a while. I'm looking for some advice on detailing Walthers cars. I have 3 Consists I'm trying to detail.

I have a 13 Car Brodaway Limited Consist, a 10 Car Superliner Consist, and a 10 Car Amfleet/Viewliner consist.

What I am looking for is quick fixes to improve the overall look of the cars. They are all decaled, the Broadway consist has all its Grab Irons installed (I won't be doing that to any other cars....ever, just to hell with that).

One tip I found was on the Superliner cars, to paint the sides of the strike plates silver, but is this something that carry's over to say the Broadway Limited cars (which are set around 1953-56)? What other quick painting, decaling, or other small things can be done to make these trains stand out.

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>> No.116759  

Sergent H couplers... they look AMAZING and take a LOT of slack out of the train.

I have a bunch of Supes and Amfleet cars, plus a bunch of Horizons that need repainting into IVb. The Supes I'll be probably doing a bunch of this stuff to, I haven't s
done anything with them in a while.

>> No.116781  

>>116759 Sweetness. I have a Eastern LD train set mostly in phase IV and some IVb. Wish microscale (or anyone) made a IVb stripe set for passenger equipment.

>> No.116783  
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>I have a bunch of Supes and Amfleet cars, plus a bunch of Horizons


>> No.116813  


we could annoy them about that. I even have the artwork mostly done for some IVb lettering and stripes.


Should I post my model of a ~1976 Amtrak Mt Rainier?

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>>116813 Aw naw, commandeering this thread for Amtrak modeling. Pictures is my latest Amtrak modeling project.

Mah stuffs:

>> No.116823  

>>116819 I want one in Northstar

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neat, a thing i've seen in person

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Sweet a modeling thread.

>Thinking about getting back into model trains
>Had an HO set as a kid
>Always liked Narrow Gauge stuff so I figured I'd go for a small 009 layout
>Locos and Stock are expensive as fuck and kit only
>Find an old OO Pug kit in a drawer
>Read online about how people take this exact kit and bash it into a narrow gauge tram
>"I can do this!"
>Track is expensive as fuck because it has to be Peco crazy track or it "looks wrong"
>Would still need a layout, power supply, rolling stock, scenery, buildings, etc

My wallet can't take this. I guess I could go back to OO/HO, but narrow gauge is so alluring.

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>but narrow gauge is so alluring.

Ease into it... try some standard-sized, but backwoods/shortline modeling first.

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1409625 No.116915   [Reply]

Is this how you would like your funeral to be?


>> No.116918  

Shouldda' chucked the carcass in the firebox, while they were at it: talk about your final mile!

>> No.116919  
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Funeral tram?

>> No.116930  

real cool story link

No.116682   [Reply]

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/07/27/get-your-chills-on-the-rails-with-kyotos-ghost-train-yvideoz/ -- Spoooookyyy...

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>> No.116690  
>Thatfs because yokai can ride for just 50 yen.

Does their folklore include foamers as yokai? We;re definitely possessed by some sort of demons...

>> No.116693  

Dunno, but there are tales that hint at some Norse and Finns being half-youkai, notably those of bear-sarks (or berserkers).

>> No.116697  

Maybe Casey Jones and the Pope Lick Monster would dig this?

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My thoughts exactly.

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The outside. Not so spectacular, but they did something to the livery at least.

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Still, there is no way to ever beat the beer/halloween/saké monorail!

>> No.116864  


The youkai look to be in the style of "Gegege no Kitaro". Most recognizable is that the one-eyed parasol with the big tongue. The Japanese name escapes me. But it's amusing how they think there are monsters lurking in everyday objects.


No one thinks it's "cultural appropriation" that the Japanese celebrate Halloween and drink beer. Then again, the Japanese aren't white.

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The umbrella ghost predates Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro. That manga/anime series just compiles everything nicely. GGGnK is also not from Kyōto, but from Tottori. They do their own trains there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0009YQQrcE

Also, the Japanese eat KFC and shortcake on christmas. Go figure... xD

>> No.116884  


I like how smoothly it passed by, in that countryside setting.

>> No.116924  

>>116863 Yeah there is the Yamanote Holloween train.

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Dug out of the reader...


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