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No.92
New board, new modeling thread. I’m curious as to how many serious modelers we still have around, because I have a question about creating a coal load from some real coal

Pic unrelated, one of the more scenic sections of the N scale layout at the Greensboro club.
¨ No.93
I got a wild hair in me recently and I wanted to model some authentic coal cars for my Virginian 2-8-8-2, so I bought some small chunks of bituminous coal on eBay with the intent of crushing them down and loading them into the hoppers, and then glue them all together to make one mass. Only thing is, I don’t know how to go about pulverizing the coal without just turning it to dust and giving myself miner’s lung, and I thought perhaps there would be someone here with some advice.
¨ No.96
>>93
Burr grinder?
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>>93
Maybe put the coal into some sort of bag and then hammer it?

When I did the coal loads for the Calgary Model Trainmen Club back in the mid 80's (they still use them!) I used material from the copper slag dump at the former Granby smelter near Grand Forks, British Columbia. The smelter closed in 1919 but they're still processing the black slag into abrasives. Someone in the club scooped up a bucket of it, it looks just like coal and is the right size for HO scale.
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>>135
That is extremely cool. I've seen those loads plenty of times, never knew the story behind them.

Pic related, Extra 8602 East (Midway turn) is working at Grand Forks yard in front of the 2D station mockup.
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>>359
Yeah we had a jack-ass who thought a full loose load was ideal on a layout... then he had a derailment, a real mess to cleanup. it got me thinking how to make a decent looking nonpermanent load that can be removed. I used a piece of blue foam board cut to insert into the gons. I shaped the tops to form two humps, coated it with white glue and sprinkled on the coal. Added a bit more coal and glued it into place with a mixture of water and white glue applied with an eyedropper, the same way we did the ballasting.

Love that train. I was looking for updates on the site last week. I need to get some H16-44's eventually too.
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>>494
I had a couple loose loads kicking around, I finally got around to making them correctly, I actually used the same idea.

Thanks for reminding me about my blog, I hadn't realized it had been over a year! New post up ;-)
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>>508
Link?
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Do Lego trains count as train modeling? Do train modelers regard the self-proclaimed L gauge as part of the hobby?
¨ No.605
>>599

In my 20 years of experience bringing Lego to train shows, most modelers (at least in my local area) either don't care, or are supportive. It's very rare I'll encounter someone who really has a problem with it. The NMRA FB group really blew up when someone 'innocently' asked for opinions on the topic. My favorite were the guys insisting that they're "JUST TOYS!!" Dude, ALL model trains are toys.

Also:
>2019
>still building in 6-wide
>YFW the sports car in the background is the same width as train
¨ No.606
>>599
I've always been curious about these. Are they kits, or made out of generic lego pieces?
¨ No.610
>>605
Thank you for your thoughts. That's reasonable.

I heard 7-wide is the patrician's choice (and the sweet spot in terms of "scale") but it significantly increases the build complexity, makes the model generally very fragile, and it uses nearly as many parts as an 8-wide. So it might make more sense to just go permanently 8-wide. Next year I'll have my own place so I'll be in a position to finally start making a Lego train layout. I've been planning this for years. So things like "6/7/8-wide?" are the questions I think about a lot lately.

>>606
Generic Lego pieces. Of course it's not a factory set. There are online marketplaces where people buy and sell individual bricks (from parted out sets and other sources). There are some added complications such as the fact that not every piece is produced in every color and some pieces are uncommon which means sometimes you need to get creative and some builds are outright impossible. To get as close to the prototype many advanced building techniques are required, for example to create all those fancy vents and grilles (the inside of this locomotive probably looks like a hot mess). Decals are custom made.
¨ No.611
>>606
>>610

Worth pointing out that there are third-party INSTRUCTIONS available from a variety of sources, but it's rare that third part KITS (read: a box that comes with all the pieces) are offered for sale.
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>>610

RE: 7 vs. 8 wide, not sure what country you're in m8, but for us North American L-gaugers, there's a very small movement promoting 10 wide as the light and the way. Recall that while the gauge of the track is 4 feet, 8.5 inches, the width of the train itself (at least in US/Canada/Mexico) is around 10 feet. The Lego track has four studs between the rails, so some argue that 10 wide would be actually prototypical. Personally, it took me a LONG time to move on from 6 wide to 8 wide, and I feel like 8 wide is more than adequate...but maybe if the movement grows, I could consider switching to 10.
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>>614
I'll be building something European so 8-wide is the absolute maximum but I'm still looking at 7-wide as the sweet spot. For every stud in width a locomotive needs to grow something like 6 or more in length to maintain proportions and that makes them look ridiculous on those tight Lego curves. Additionally I want to build a turntable so extra length is a disadvantage. 10-wide would be insane although the benefit is that it matches the track gauge in scale.

6-wide is likely out of question because I have relatively little 9V equipment (and 9V track is getting more expensive as years go by), so I'll be going with the power functions system and those motors and battery boxes need some space to go into. You can fit almost anything in 8-wide so that would be perfect.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Railbricks magazine (https://brickmodelrailroader.com/index.php/download-railbricks/), issue 14 has an interesting short article on Lego train scaling.

Thanks for your comments.
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>>494
Speaking of H16-44's, I went to the Vancouver Train Expo yesterday and almost snagged me a Bachmann Spectrum H16-44 in CPR block scheme. The guy had it listed for $199 CAD slashed down to $80... then I noticed that the handrails were missing or mangled. Passed on it when it made a horrible grinding noise on a piece of test track. I think it may have had a DCC decoder (no sound) in it. Another guy had one NIB for $95. Seems kind of expensive.. I know my Scotch ancestry makes me "thrifty" but am I out of line and being cheap? $80 is right on the max i'd (reluctantly) pay for used. I'm leaning more down to $60-ish.

Picked up a used nicely weathered 40ft boxcar in CPR lettering and a whole bunch of b&w prints of CPR Trainmasters and H16-44's GTC Collectibles was clearing out.

Nice show, every scale except for Z and live steam was represented. Even TT, British O-scale and Lego.
¨ No.635
>>631
I wish someone produced a Virginian H-16-44 with sound and DCC hookups, I’ve taken a liking to the Biggest Little Railroad in the World here recently but the amount of non-DC locomotives in HO is scant.
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>>635
You just have to make your own ;-) Speaking as an N scaler, I've crammed sound into places it definitively should not be. (picture related)
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>>631
We really need to get in touch properly. Can you send me an email through my website? (Matthew Hicks Photography, ignore the weddingy contact fields)
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>>639

I'd like to know a bit more about that geep in second place. I recognize the paint scheme as QNS&L, but the side clearly reads "PNC." I always thought that paint scheme was originally QNS&L, did they buy these second-hand, or is this a second-hand unit from them, or?
¨ No.647
>>642
Good eye! PNC, or Precision National [leasing] Corporation had a ton of GP7s from a few railroads, including a good number from QNSL. I chose that particular unit because one side was patched really poorly, and "LABRADOR" is bleeding through the stripe.
¨ No.648
>>647

Ah, interesting. I didn't realize leasing companies went as far back as the FM era on CP (although come to think of it, I don't know exactly when they stopped using them) I guess I always thought leasers didn't really appear until the mid-80s. The linked article is the first time I've seen leaser units (read: lettered for the leasing company) any earlier than when BN started "power-by-the-hour."

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/qnsl/precision.htm
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>>648
CP started its proud tradition of being power short in the early 70s, with growing traffic and an aging 4 axle fleet, before taking delivery of hundreds of SD40-2s. They also leased units from the BAR as traffic on the BAR was very seasonal, so red/grey/black or solid blue BAR GP7s were a very common sight as well.
Then they retired all the FM units and 244 block MLWs and started the GP7/9u rebuilding program, leaving them very short of 4 axle power until, like, 1990something. This bumped units like the GP35s and C424s to branchline service for most of the 80s, which was also neat.
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And also the reason I have a C424. MEGACHUGG LIVES!
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>>657
I've been told the retirement of the FM/CLC's was premature. I don't have my files accessable atm but irc someone who worked in the locomotive assignment office in Montreal mentioned to me that the CPR retired their FM fleet about 2 years too early. That's how low on motive power they were and management was cautioned about their decision as traffic forecasts were predicting an increase, which turned out to be accurate. A sentiment i've heard echoed by other employees of the day.

He also gave me a copy of the telex to Nelson ordering the remaining CLC products to be returned east to Alyth forthwith. Interesting to see where each C-Line A-unit and H16-44 was on the system at that moment. It gave specific instructions on which trains to put certain locomotives. I think one pair was already on an east bound train and they tacked on the remaining CLC's stored at Nelson as it passed through. All CLC's were in Alyth inside of 24 hrs except for one C-Liner which was held over somewhere (Lethbridge?) Until the next day. The trains they were on were operating at night so the railfan community had no chance to get some last shots even if they received a warning in time.

I think I may also have a copy of the report showing the cost per mile figures for those last remaining CLC's, and submitted to Montreal by the maintenance forces at Nelson. While a bit higher than the GMD products in 1975 they weren't too far out of line.

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Tonight I just got what you see here for $60. A guy was changing his era so it was deemed surplus. New in the box. :^) I now have a model representing each variation the CPR had for the two demonstrators.
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>>658
Nice C424, btw. A buddy was one of the first to buy the Atlas HO model back in the day. We thought the price was outrageous, ($130 at Hobby Worst). I prefer it in the action red pacman scheme. Had a real one tooling around Calgary during summer 1986 for a few weeks. A rarity as they almost never came west then. Watched it do a Keith Turn and back while partying in Edworthy Park. Heheh The only time I ever saw it.

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