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2chan japan rail thread, just for fun:

go http://dat.2chan.net/r/futaba.htm
bring something back, bonus points for translating.


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Blue train (sleeper) restaurant a la carte menu. Pretty self explanatory. The Engrish is adorable as always.


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"nationwide ekiben guide" says on the side
A guide to station bento in other words and appears to be sorted by line and then station with the presumably exclusive bento names. I kinda want this now. I must have all the obento!


It's really quite good.
One of the salmons is smorked, while the other is smoked, Tajibi Gozen looks untranslated or untranslatable, and someone put ice cream in the stew.


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Jesus christ.


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Japanese tram that actually looks modern. No idea where.


Genuine Japanese high school girls?

Man those skirts…


>>1476 – I think it says “Hiroshima Electric Railway” in English on the closest non-driving car.

>>1477 – The text on /r/ said ‘JK’ so joshikousei (high school girls) should be a safe assumption.

Mind, I do have a slight advantage in snagging from /r/ as K-Meleon lets me access Giggle Translate in four keypresses.


Keep it SFW, in the sense of what if your boss was standing behind you…


Ah, Newcastle. For those that don't know, the Ant line is to the *left*.


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Same pointwork from a different angle. Date is around 1895, apparently.


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I thought the picture was quite SFW. *grumble grumble*


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Does this look like moomin, or am I stoned?


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Apparently I'm sober.


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Some ojiisan believed to be smoking?

You have to admit, the driver was bloody well good at driving to be able to do so with his feet up. ATC means you'll be juggling speed limits.

The Hiroden Green Mover Max. They replaced the Green Movers which were Combinos that got pulled from service due to structural integrity issues.

Wasn't this the guy arrested for gluing the train horn flaps shut?


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Just realised now the train was an E235.

K'Set Skyliner celebrates its 20 millionth passenger. Counting in 万 is something I'll never get used to.


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If I'm reading this correctly, the Tokyo governor wants to reduce train crowding by introducing double decker trains.* And they're going on about how they could do double decker platforms to go with it?!*

*so the slower boarding times of double deckers is nullified

Though there's talk of LRT so they're probably just dreaming in lala land anyway.

The JR215. I maintain that it is a knockoff of the Tangara trains in Sydney. It has all the drawbacks with none of the benefits.


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Holy fuck.


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>>1484 – It was.

>>1503 – Still exists, then?


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← A Hokutō 7000 series EMU on its sayonara run.


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Given the strange things in the EXIF, it's probably a picture going around for quite a while.

First thing that comes to mind is the Arzens nose.


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An /r/ visualisation of how the double decker platform could turn out.


http://www.american-rails.com/triple-crossing.html – Yep, looks like the crossing still exists.

And the Hokusō (not Hokutō) 7000 bowed out in 2007.


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Looks like JR Hokkaido’s line crews have no butts to sit on anymore, having worked them off. JRH first expected to finish repairs on the Sekihoku Main Line around mid-October, but now, according to /r/, the line should be back in use already.


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<<- That’s the Panasonic Evolta VLRV (Very Light Rail Vehicle).

In not-so-happy news, JRH plans to axe some fifty-odd stations next round.


To serve the 50 small, to-be-closed stations?


No doubt tempting, but having to swap 99 "D" cells every 8.5km would become very tiring very fast.


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The only way to make this more japanese would be for the children to be kimono-clad.


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Oh, it’s 51 stations to be closed down.


What sort of closures are these? Full on branch closures remove the rails ala Beeching axe, or more like discontinuation of some flag stops on the line?


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These stations will be closed down. In fact, it looks like there will be seventeen closures on the Sōya line alone.

← Nisshin is one of these seventeen.


If you have a Japanese font on your machine, you can compare glyphs on the list to names on the various lines, beginning with, f.ex. the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%8Dya_Main_Line


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How likely do you think it is that this mother would have got a priority seat?


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Holy shit.


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Faster than a speeding bullet (train).


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GaoGaiGar kicks ass. There's even an episode with a Zonder made of trains.


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The Osaka subway has been around for a while, right?


Since the 1930s. Pic’s maybe not quite that old, though.


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← Someone printed himself a model of the Toblerone Train.


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I have no idea which of these three looks the coolest.


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Match Of The Day or Matches The Day?


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Yotei Maru, one of three ex-Seikan railway ferries now ‘working’ as tourist attractions.


It was only a few stops till the 1950s though. It initially built as a make work project during the depression.


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*blink* *blink* What? Already?


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The old Tokaido Line alignment?? Seems quite grand and lost to history.


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Not from /r/ but I figured it's better than starting a new thread. That's the first time I've seen damage resulting from 人身事故 fixed like that. Though there's a video out there of them driving a Tokyu 5000 with most of the windscreen gone.
Now, they haven't changed the destination indicator to say out of service yet!


>>2319 – I think I have seen similar pictures from Sakhalin.

>>2344 – Wonder if they were planning to reverse the set there and then.


I think I found the clip you mentioned. Tokyu 5003, Not In Service, internal lights out, left half of windscreen mostly smashed in.



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On flooding ground, run. Run like blazes!


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>>2344 – This one is from /r/. An earlier shot, perhaps, than the one you found.


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485 with Overdrive?

Perhaps Bachman-Turner Overdrive?

“B-b-b-baby, you ain’t seen nothing yet…”


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>>2319 – Got around to toss the relevant thread to Giggle Translate. This was supposedly part of the Muroran line. The first image in the thread, however, was listed as Tokaido.


I‘m going to step to the edge and guess that >>2319 is the Kuriyama tunnel which collapsed in part in 1990, leading to single-tracking between Kuriyama and Kurioka rather than trying to repair the tunnel.


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← Will this be the entirety of JRH’s rail network soon, with the missing lines bustituted?


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>mfw I found the thread with that maps

Those are Serpell Report level cuts.


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In another thread, one of power collection with both pantos and shoes, this Giggle Translation left me glad I had no liquid in my mouth:

“Because Britain is a gentleman and a pervert country It can not be a man”


Has anybody made a .gif that shows the decline of JR Hokkaido?


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This four-framer was still on /r/: Past – past – present – future?



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Be careful with these idiot sticks. You could end up frying yourselves AND the phone!


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Yes, I got this image off /r/.

Walking the rails doesn’t get much further in the direction of posh than this. It’s a Jaguar. Topless. Twelve-cylinder purring thing.

OK, it‘s actually Jeremy Clarkson‘s somewhat infamous TGV12 Sports Train. Face it, lads: It‘s a Top Gear project. Infamy is standard equipment.


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I can see that being a valid concern.


The Giggle Translate WOTD:

tetsu-ota (railfan) → iron otter.


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So that’s why they are called trainers.


lol dorky


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Literally all I know is that this loco loco is from a Japanese TV series called “Hashire! K-100”.


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Have they made a british version of the 271/toblerone train, i.e. with flatwagons inbetween?


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>>2526 – Haven’t seen one yet.

← To the lower left, we see a steamer lumbering off on the zairaisen (the old conventional line(s)), while to the upper right a trainset is holding at a station on the shinkansen (New Trunk Line(s)).


A bit like this, then?


(A little Chinese narrow gauge stemer working on clay hoppers, while a modern bullet train passes above.)


>>2606 – Something like. Come to think of it… I think a link to this video was once posted on the old 1chan.


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Longcat is looong! as you can tell. This image comes from a thread on diesels running under wires. (There are various reasons for doing so.)


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Not quite the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions railcars.


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>1:1 scale slot cars


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It took me a long time (10–15 seconds) to get a clue on the odd-looking sleepers/ties just ahead.


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I like that station indicator!


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After a very tiring day…


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Why there would be a pantograph on a totally ordinary WaMu goods car, I do not know. But there it is.


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Wallpaper, ho!


I give up, what is it?


>>2776 – They are, as far as I can tell, the remains of a set of points. My guess is that in the past the platform back loop diverged (or was intended to diverge) further out on the bridge than it does now.


It could be the remains of a derail rather than a full switch.


>>2784 – Whether the loop was once longer or there was a trap there, the bridge would have had to have be wider to accommodate it.

So I’m wondering, was it ever wider than it is now? I have no idea which line this is, so finding out will not be easy at all – assuming it is even documented on the Web.


>>2785 – OK, I finally thought of sending the thread through Giggle Translate and hope to get something understandable back.

Now, if I did understand correctly what I got back, this is in fact the new Yamashita station on the Joban line, and the oddity on >>2720 is there for future expansion. Should have figured it out; the timbers looked far too new…


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Anyone looking for a Toy to play with?


I already have a X CP M19 Its got winter wheels on the back. Need to trade them for some regular wheels as I don't plan to run it in winter.


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You do not often see an EL blowing off steam, do ya?


me but rather have the VW one or make one out of a junked Delorean
Railorean LOL


>>2863 – AFAIC, a Jaguar XJ-S loose-top would be cool, too.


Is that for steam heating?


I believe this is the steam engine behind the electric locomotive, look at the position of the steam cloud.


>>2871 – If I retranslated Giggle Translate’s utterings correctly, the EF58s did have oil-fired steam generators for heating. ETH was a late addition, and only some units got ETH equipment. #61 is not one of these, according to jp.wikipedia.

ION, #61 is mostly retired now. Cracks were found in the frame, and repairs were considered uneconomical. One can probably still spot it running light, but its hauling days are over.


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As you can tell, the GE999 project is a bit more than vapourware.


Just a reminder to everyone, please keep all of your images SFW. Just because it's not sexual doesn't mean it's SFW.


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Are Hokkaido's railroads as Frozen as this?


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My commute is not this long! happyhappyjoyjoy


das sick


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Looks like this rental should be a nice little earner for its owner.


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Ear plugs… check.
Ear protectors… check.
Image… check.
Music video… check. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4tEC2uMFB4
Submit button… click.


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So *that's* how you get to Narita Airport!


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Warning – Low bridge!


Less than 4 feet! I wonder what the purpose of the bridge is? Animal Crossing?


I was all ready to say "it's clearly a pedestrian path" and then I realized that four feet is stupid low.

Maybe it is, though. Maybe Willy Wonka moved his factory to Japan and this is in the Oompa Loompa's housing district.


Four foot is about average height for Japan, isn't it?

I was going to make a joke about what happens if a vehicle hits it, but the gauge is probably wrong.


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A quick pictorial explanation of what happened when a JR Central N700 trainset derailed earlier this month.


Still high enough for the average Jap to go under without crouching.


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Pre-scrapped stock? Parts donors? Just a ka-lunk away, mon.


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Anyone sad every time you read one of these?


JR West Sanko Line (goes from Sea of Japan side in Totori to the middle of Hiroshima) closing down as of the next timetable revision March 2018



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I love that remark on how Uzui has 0 passengers per day figure so to hell with barrier free! It doesn't get passengers but bloody hell it's a long line that's closing.

Also, ??? Toblerone Kintetsu train makes it to print, among others.


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>Go to /r/
>Find thread REEEEEEing about Korean language signage.

never change 2chan


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I wonder how many would like a play desk like this…


I'm 25 and I would still play with that.


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Based on the show of brains, this oughta be a zombie with a camera.


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Spotted this ‘anteater’ while looking around.

Oh, and below, for a short while, is a wax-nostalgic thread about the JNR 103 EMU, which was mustered off the Osaka Loop Line on October the third:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/103_series – For the record, the type is now in its sixth decade of operation. Wonder how many will be running in 2064…


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An attack of Teh Cutez. Something about this perhaps being refugees from the Kiso Forest Railway. My words, not theirs.


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Seems that fhe first railroad to run dual-mode buses in regular traffic will be a tiny one on Shikoku, the Asa Coastal Railway, whose only line is ca. 8,5 km long.


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An Unimog? Keio? Right unexpected, I gotta say.


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Psch! Brake open these troublesome bottles with this Kyoto Railway Museum souvenir.


That looks like a fresh idea.


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Japanese railway stations are so large that…


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Too bad this is still a shoop.


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That’s Maribel from the now-defunct Shimotsui Electric Railway. Ain’t she a beaut?


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The nearest house to Kobe Electric Railway’s Miki station went up in flames two days ago and took the station building with it.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrxYbWVSlFo – GBTC turned around just in time…


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The bomb helped to preserve the trams in Japan!

Honk when you see the Hiroden! (This is Nagasaki though.)


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And this weird contraption too.

Oddly enough, the discussion in the thread was about automatic railroad crossing signals, or something.

Japan seems to have a bunch of these interurban like services intact that are legally operated as railways, so they don't show up on the lists of tramway systems.


Yes, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botchan_Ressha is something different, isn’t it?

Unless Giggle Translate made a bigger hash of the text than usual, the thread began as a question about an odd device, apparently called a ‘trolley contactor’. It is an insulated switch activated by a passing trolley or pantograph that can then affect nearby signals and/or points.


On old streetcar systems switches were often thrown by drawing power over a special electric circuit before the switch. Generally modern systems use radio control switches but a lot of the unmodernized streetcar systems in Japanese C-cities still use the old method (no electronics, will last forever).


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Ow, that has *got* to hurt…


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Looks familiar? I am quite sure this is the Japanese cover for “Unstoppable”.


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I German cities particular least there's also in use this "switching magnet" system. It's very un-googleable when you don't know the right Anglo-Saxon jargon.

Ilmajohto = catenary
Vaihteenkääntökeskus = point turning cabinet (by the way, there were originally 600 V resistors, but these were not reliable enough for some reason)
Kääntörele = point turning relay
lankasulake = wire fuse
Vaunu = car
vaihteenlämmityskeskus = point heating cabinet
termostaattiohjaus = thermostat control
täysteho = full power
Ajokiskot = tracks
kääntörele = point turning relay
kääntömagneetti koneisto = (point) turning magnet machinery

What sort of system it is, this radio system? Some suitably modulated analog signal or some really secial protocol with encryption and everything?

Apparently some systems use infrared:

Though this may be an urban legend.


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reed box, bout 10 m away.

The rules say, reportedly, that a driver must approach in such a speed that they can stop in 7 meters if necessary and no car may pass the relay box before the previous tram has cleared the switch.

I suppose special wire section or special senser between the tracks kind of systems areinherently vulnerable to multitrack drifting.


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Not sure what this is supposed to be. Not sure I even *want* to know what this is supposed to be.


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Someone heard they like rail vehicles, I guess.


>>5591 – Now that is hitting the shutter release at the right moment.


No the locomotive is on the farthest track but looking at it quickly it does look like it's resting on that… thing


>That joke


>>5599 – Well, the ‘thing’ is a departmental MoW vehicle, that much is obvious. In fact, I think it is a KiYa 97 rail transporter.

jp.wikipedia on the KiYa 97: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/JR%E6%9D%B1%E6%B5%B7%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A497%E7%B3%BB%E6%B0%97%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A

>>5600 – Boot-to-da-head!


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( ´∀`)< Honk honk!


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Pretty tight curve radius, I'd say. The 4.1 x 3 m loading gauge uses the track gauge pretty well, I think. What sort of wehicle widths they have, I think.


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That was a question.

Kind of interurbanish service, it looks like.

It feels horrible looking the above posts done stoned (more than now), what does it do to one's grammar.


>>5604 – The Enshū Railway in Hamamatsu City, Shizuoka Prefecture is retiring their last 30-series EMU at the end of the month, and making a big do out of it.


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Gods above and below… I am not even far from drunk enough for this…


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"Stand up, damned of the Earth
Stand up, prisoners of starvation"?


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(Anyway, I checked the rough lenght myself, 21.4 m for some passenger coaches, whilst here it is about 26 m. Seems reasonable but still people say on that another transit chan that JR is stuggling with freight.)


IIRC rail freight has very little relevance in Japan, for various reasons: there's dense passenger service, small-ish loading gauge, and population density makes rail freight less economical than trucks (not so many large shipments that have to go long ways, etc.)
This is from hearsay tho, maybe someone with more specific knowledge can tell you more.


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The situation is quite the reverse from the US. In Japan, freight runs on passenger lines. And, yes, JR Freight is kind of the ’poor stepsibling’ in the JR Group, with about 50km/30mi of rail in its name. OTOH, they do have one of the coolest freight movers about, namely the M250 “Super Rail Cargo” EMU.


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Oh… OH! Of course! It is not a draisine, it is a kei bus!


Some of the most intensive JR freight routes operate through the Seikan Tunnel (and they might get gimped to make way for the moneypit Shinkansen).

Coastal shipping is still common in Japan (it's not a coincidence that so many Japanese factories are located on or near the coast). If you fly into Haneda you'll see that Tokyo Bay is full of barges and little cargo ships.


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That is one of four cab modifications done to the 6000 series in Jakarta
all of them retired in 2016


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Ulch! The Shikoku 8600s look loopy enough *without* photoshopping them like that!


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← These are pocket-sized destination blinds one can buy as souvenirs.

Someone’s been stealing the real thing from several JR Hokkaido trains (as if JRH isn’t in enough straits already!) and covering the thefts up with blinds painted on paper.


IIUGTC (If I Understood Google Translate Correctly), the thefts were discovered when employees noted that some blinds did not rotate as they should.


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Yes, the Shingelion is no more…

HelLOO, Kitty!


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Oh, yes. Maid trains are, or at least were, a thing. Seibu was perhaps the first railco to run them, using their 10000-series "New Red Arrow" express trains.


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>>5884 – There is a Japanese website, maidtrain.info (probably a dead site), that states on its About page that the first railco to run maid trains was Kashima Rinkai – of Girls&Panzer fame – using their KRT-7000 express DMU, the Marine Liner Hamanasu.


This gives my boner a boner.


>>5887 – It gets weirder still. It seems that Kashima Rinkai worked with another small railco, Hitachinaka Seaside, to hire cosplay maids from Tokyo Akihabara, and both companies ran maid trains.

And the big blink-blinker? I do not know if it did happen, but there were plans to run butler trains as well, with staff from the Swallowtail Butler Café.


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pretty pink 😻


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Odakyu’s venerable Romance Car LSE had its last run today.


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Aside: The pic in >>5973 shows Mori-Miyanohara station on the Iiyama line. It is among the snowiest railway stations in the world, and has a 7.85m (25′9″) tall station marker that also marks the deepest snowfall recorded (in 1945-02-12) at the station.

See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Morimiyanohara_Station_2018-06_2.jpg for a better view.


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JR Hokkaido intends to buy these H100s to replace their old KiHa40 rustbuckets. For a change, they are diesel-electric instead of diesel-hydraulic.




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Man, one finds the oddest of things sucking from wires nowadays…


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(pic found in a modelling thread)

On 2005-12-25, Inaho #14, 485-3000 trainset R24, derailed between Sagoshi and Kita-Amarume stations on the Uetsu main line after a very strong crosswind gust struck the train just after it crossed the Mogami river.

Five passengers were killed, and 33 pax and crew wounded, some seriously.





How do you load/empty the dump bed, then? You'd need an auxiliary battery to get out from underneath the wires.
Assuming it's not just a 'shoop.


>>6034 – Nope, looks to be completely real. Hitachi advertises a mine truck that uses trolley assist to climb out of the mine.

See also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhqgVimGZRs – Trolley assist.
https://miningforzambia.com/big-clean-green-machines/ – One mine claims to save eight million litres of diesel per year with trolley assist on the climb-out.


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>>6020 >>6034
I know Soviets also experimented with trolley-dumptrucks for quarries. Not sure anything of that was used commercially BUT…

They did also invent an entirely new type of rail vehicle called the traction unit comprised of electric locomotive section, 1-3 motor-dumpcars and, often, a diesel-generator unit. So this is functionally a railway analog of this electric dump truck, but with also regular dumpcars attached to it. Meanwhile, the motorized dumpcars, when loaded, provide an extra adhesive weight (thus they can carry useful load too AND provide extra traction only when it's needed with the full train climbing back to the surface level).
Very clever and efficient design if you ask me. They are widely used in ex-USSR and I believe also in China.

The first unit on the photo is the electric locomotive unit, the second one is diesel-generator unit (also locomotive unit) and the yellow dumpcar is the motorized dumpcar.

These things have 30 tons of axle load, which, along wityh their unique design, makes them suitable for hauling trains on grades up to 6% (60‰)!


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Back to your question, more modern traction units switch to side-located "fishing rod" current collectors as they approach loading area, so the wire is located on the side thus not interfering with loading.

On the photo you see one using the side wire. It is modern NP1 7800 kW traction unit produced by NEVZ in Russia and it does not have a DGU. Ones with diesel-generators often use them, also diesels on them are usually used to move cars between the mining facility and a mainline railway station which usually has different power system.
So, where am I leading it, since the truck on the photo does not have "fishing rods" it must be having an auxiliary diesel-generator too. Really, many parallels with the traction units, I like that. TUs are really cool.


This is one of those instances where you come up with an idea, think it's clever, and only then find out someone else came up with the same thing decades ago.
Engineer a way to economically retrofit standard freight car bogies with tiny little traction motors, just enough to move itself; turn every car in the consist into an EMU run off head-end power. You'd only really use them for starting off, steep grades, and dynamic braking, so maintenance shouldn't be that bad.


I have had such flights of fancy myself, like BEMU (Battery EMU) or DMU freight cars that would give power for starting, shunting/switching or climbing and (for the BEMUs) recover it when braking and (to lesser degree) running level, possible accepting head end or shore power for topping up.


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>second page be like

I thought I was original with the idea of self propelled/assist freight too, but then I found patents about it lol. Take it a step further and tape on some ultracaps so some braking energy can be recovered for the next acceleration. It would also allow for high redundancy so if even all of them fail, the loco and regular brakes could keep the train going.
It could also revolutionise shunting with multiple self assembling trains working at a time. If a consultation job arrives at a reasonable unit cost, it would simply be a matter of selling the practical implementation.


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This isn't actually economical at all. There is a solid reason why most freight cars are as mechanically simple and low-maintenance as possible. Imagine this, should they have even simplest traction drive, there will be at least a couple of traction motors and gearboxes, battery, traction converter, some auxiliary schematics, digital controller - all that would amount for the price of the entire car without it all, trust me. But this isn't even the main problem, even smaller freight operators have THOUSANDS of cars in their stock, and all of this should be maintained, and since we are having traction electrics here, with much more qualified personnel, among other things, like parts etc.

It will be an economical nightmare. Typical electric rolling stock has a lifetime maintenance cost comparable to its original cost. And mind you the original cost will be, like, twice as high too.

>>6043 And this will not serve for better redundancy too, in fact this will be a giant chain of points of failure, since at least motors and gearboxes if failed will likely endanger the safety of the entire train because you DO NOT want to have a broken gear or a bearing in a moving train, and with dozens, if not hundreds, of axle-motor assemblies in your train the failure probability will skyrocket, even if you, through great expenses, will manage to maintain it all properly.

Heck, which traction drives are we talking about if even just an electropneumatic brakes is an unaffordable luxury for most freight trains, despite it literally requires just a single wire and a special air distributor? Compared to the proposed it is as simple as a banana.


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>>6041 And traction units use this principle substantially differently mind you. The motor-dumpcars here are part of the traction unit itself, most of the cargo is transported still with normal cars, motor-cars are essentially just boosters instead of useless ballast using (and transporting) actual cargo. And thus they are maintained as, most of the time, inseparable part of the traction unit.

Sorry to ruin it for you guys, but this idea essentially disrupts the whole concept of a modern freight train. Likely far into the future we (or our kids) will see vast maglev networks with relatively short but blazing fast drone trains carrying containerized cargo with their cars sorting themselves autonomously. But first some VERY significant technical advancements shall be made to make this all economically valid. Sure, technically this is more or less possible today but not very practical yet.


Hence why I described my thoughts as flights of fancy. They are dreamworks, after all.

OTOH, there are already a few dedicated freight EMUs, mainly the CarGoTram in Dresden and the M250 “Super Rail Cargo” running between Tokyo and Osaka.


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>>6050 – Keio… I am reminded of a British Rail ad for the Intercity 125, in which this question was asked: “Who’s ever heard of a train jam?”

Keio, Keikyu and Tokyu would no doubt respond with a big, resounding “US!!!!!”


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“The Kansai Airport Line is currently closed due to damaged track and wet ballast. We apologise for the inconvenience.”


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yeah uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this doesn't help either


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Hence, track damage. The rail deck got misaligned, too.



>>6172 – Typhoon Jebi did that; threw that little tanker at the bridge that connects the Kansai International Airport to shore. Right now, there is only the downwind half of the road and a ferry that connect the airport to Osaka.



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If I got it right, Tokyo Metro is retiring their last 6000-series EMUs a month ahead of schedule.


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Wonder how robust these blinds were.


Solari signs are extremely reliable, in general they probably last longer than a typical LCD display.


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Do all these light-emitting diodes make this thing a LED Sled?


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I think someone was tossing up an idea for a freight DMU, but if one such could carry a fourty-footer and drag a few more, it might become a nice little last-miler for a business park or a small industry park.


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Anyone wants something like this on hir desk?


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Oh? Yesterday (2018-10-14) was Railway Day in Japan, as it was on that day in 1872 that the first railway began operating.

A few images shot at a railway festival last year:


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Chuggington meets Okayama…


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No wonder there was a long line waiting to ogle this Sapporo tram.


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← Now this is just bags of awesome.


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… followed immediately by more bags of awesome.

I think both images are from the Sapporo Snow Festival.


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Now here is a tote for a bloke.


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Y’know… I think the Nishi-Gobō station is starting to look a bit rickety these days.


I like japan train


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