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What's the point of closing everything up to make a Shove Platform? That seems counter intuitive.


It just gives a stable place for a conductor/brakeman/switchman to stand while on shoving moves instead of having to hang on to the side of the car. Blanking the windows means there's no glass for shitty kids with rocks to break. Locking up the body means the railroad doesn't have to worry about maintaining toilets, heating, AC, et cetera or worry about someone falling out of the cupola. It's just an economic measure and another example of railroads milking every penny they can out of rolling stock before retiring it.



Saw a new shoving platform in Portland yesterday. It was a BN green flat car, with a single bar running side to side right at the middle of the car. Thats it.

was the most spartan thing I have seen, but if it makes it safe then I guess it works.


Why not maje a CABoose for long shoves?


I think I'd hate that. I caught a few work trains while I was at GCRY that required riding on the flatcar and it was a little uncomfortable for me on the deck, especially when we were on the weed sprayer train and I was having to walk around on that deck while we were in motion.


Come to think of it, I think we have something similar here. It's an old flat car with a simple hand rail and platform welded on one end & they use it while switching cars on/off a rail barge.

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Why does everything made by IHC look and feel like cheap, hot garbage?
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Walthers was pretty much the only company that made halfway-decent Amtrak stock. I found it cheaper to ride Amtrak IRL than to model it.


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I have a set of IHC Valley Flyer cars that I got, I was going to use them as a basis for a home-road passenger train.


I've got a full set of IHC Blue Goose Santa Fe, all together it looks alright but I've never cared for the build of the cars themselves. The only reason I've kept it around this long was because I enjoyed having a full set of something (aside from the right engines to pull it)

Everyone gets such a boner for the Southern in this area, and don't get me wrong, it's a good road, but I just get tired of seeing so much of it. Plus SAL/SCL was also local to this area back in the day so it's more apropos than if I ran UP or something.

Oh god, belt driven?


I agree honestly. I myself model the FEC over the SAL though, I just find it a bit more interesting.


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Ahh.. the curse of being cheap (aka "thrifty").
Some model prices are unbelievable. I'm just starting to build up a fleet of freight cars, because of the era i'm interested in it's mostly boxcars. I was at a train show on sunday looking at a beautiful 40 ft CPR boxcar in block lettering made by True Line Trains… the detailing is immaculate, a rivet counters wet dream. Price: $49.98! Holy s–t! I thought it was a misprint. I didn't pay that much for my locomotives.

Instead I bought a couple of boxcars made by some company called Trains Canada. The detailing level is decent & good enough for me. Best of all they were discounted down to $11.99. I'm planning to buy more if they still have some in November at the Vancouver show. I kick myself for not buying more as I just learned today the company has closed. I've been looking for a Bachmann Spectrum H16-44 priced right so I held onto my money at the time.

Model trains seems to be all about compromise.

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What is this place


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You wouldn't believe, but by come account this is the second oldest western chan in the history, originating from the time when early 4chan purged its train board.

That's why this place is also an informal futaba archive, but that is a story for another time.


Trains or GTFO. You in or out?

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